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> not shady side hustles and market manipulation at the cost of the collective To be clear, I'm not describing this as legitimate self-interested conduct. Elec
by JumpCrisscross 3mo ago
> not shady side hustles and market manipulation at the cost of the collective
To be clear, I'm not describing this as legitimate self-interested conduct. Elections are an alignment mechanism. Stiff penalties for corruption another. We don't have the latter in America.
- asdf88990 3mo agoThis is a true Scotsman’s fallacy. “Legitimacy” of self-interest is fluid and subjective. Which means self-interest and collective interests are often at tension rather than alignment.
- JumpCrisscross 3mo ago> This is a true Scotsman’s fallacy. “Legitimacy” of self-interest is fluid and subjective Legitimacy is the "alignment" question. We can't objectrively judge it, fundamentally, because it's an expression of values: to what degree do the society's system of incentives align with the greater good? That isn't a No True Scotsman's fallacy, because there are true Scotsmen. Literally Scotsmen. And every other member of a complex society. Including, in all likelihood, you, a person who subjects themselves to laws and employment and fielty for reasons that are a mix of duty and self interest.
- asdf88990 3mo agoYou seem to fail to grasp that just because people answer the call to duty it does not mean the duty is aligned with their self interest. The most stark example is joining armed forces.
- JumpCrisscross 3mo agoAnother straw man. Nobody argued self interest is the only motivation.