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What's the data governance and privacy controls on using Kimi K3 if I subscribe to their coding plans? I want to migrate away from Anthropic
by hmokiguess 3mo ago
What's the data governance and privacy controls on using Kimi K3 if I subscribe to their coding plans? I want to migrate away from Anthropic
- cromka 3mo agoNeed to wait until "western" providers start hosting it.
- shostack 3mo agoIs fireworks not private enough?
- HDBaseT 3mo agoBased in the US, they glow.
- deminature 3mo agoFireworks (the author of OP's article) is a western provider based in San Mateo, California
- scilro 3mo agoFireworks isn't serving Kimi K3 yet. Presumably, they ran this benchmark against the Moonshot API. All of the Western providers with sufficient capacity will be able to make it available when the weights are released Monday.
- Maxious 3mo agoFireworks has been working on porting the Kimi Delta Attention (KDA) hybrid linear attention mechanism to their hosting infrastructure https://x.com/FireworksAI_HQ/status/2079776331609584005 https://x.com/FireworksAI_HQ/status/2079776331609584005
- nicce 3mo agoSome people might choose Chinese over US these days. Likely looking for EU location.
- hmokiguess 3mo agoCorrect me if I'm wrong, but there has not been a "western" provider offering subscription-like plans for open weight models right? Just metered pricing
- yogthos 3mo agohttps://www.kimi.com/user/agreement/zh/userPrivacy https://www.kimi.com/user/agreement/zh/userPrivacy
- treesknees 3mo agoWhy not link to the English version? It seems intentionally misleading. https://www.kimi.com/user/agreement/userPrivacy?version=v2 https://www.kimi.com/user/agreement/userPrivacy?version=v2
- recursivegirth 3mo ago[flagged]
- yogthos 3mo agoChinese version was the one I found.
- ignoramous 3mo agoSimplest way is to signup to OpenRouter and filter out all non ZDR (zero data retention) providers. Paying "API rates" however can prove expensive compared to coding plans (for instance, MiniMax $20/mo coding plan allows 1.7b tokens; depending on input/output/cache ratio, it is worth $200 to $500+), except for Hy3, DeepSeek v4 Pro, and MiMo v2.5 Pro (whose API rates are cheap and/or discounted already). If you're looking to not have to deal with Chinese providers, AtlasCode ($20/mo), OpenCode Go ($10/mo), and Cline Pass ($10/mo) provide 2x to 6x usage for some of the popular open weights (depending on the model). Personally, I subscribe to Z.ai ($17/mo), and pay API rates for MiMo v2.5, Hy3, Qwen 3.7 Plus, & DeepSeek v4 to the original providers (Xiaomi, Tencent, Alibaba, & DeepSeek).
- qurren 3mo agoFrom https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/agreement/modeluse https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/agreement/modeluse > We may use Content to provide, maintain, develop, support, and improve the Services, comply with applicable law, enforce our terms and policies, and keep the Services safe and secure. Customer who requires restrictions on the use of Customer Content for training or improving Moonshot AI models may contact Moonshot AI to discuss available enterprise arrangements or separate written agreements. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, Customer Content may be used for the foregoing purposes. Notably, unlike Claude, there is not an opt-out option for the model training part. The TOS explicitly allows Kimi to train on your code.
- andsoitis 3mo ago> What's the data governance and privacy controls on using Kimi K3 if I subscribe to their coding plans? If you can’t figure it out from their website, perhaps it is a red flag?