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This is not even than a slap on the wrist. Publishers who negotiated this really fucked up writers. According to US federal law, pirating a single copyrighted

by pier25 3mo ago

This is not even than a slap on the wrist. Publishers who negotiated this really fucked up writers. According to US federal law, pirating a single copyrighted work and gaining commercial advantage of it (which Anthropic 100% did) represents five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. But it gets worse: "Penalties for a copyright infringement conviction may increase if the defendant has previous similar convictions, made more than 10 copies of copyrighted works, committed copyright infringement during a period longer than 180 days, or infringed copyrighted material worth more than $2,500." https://www.justia.com/entertainment-law/piracy-in-the-entertainment-industry/ https://www.justia.com/entertainment-law/piracy-in-the-enter...

paxys 3mo ago
It's valid to not take AI companies' side here but people who think publishers are fighing for the little guy's rights are delusional. Tech companies have been exploiting artists for a few years, publishers/record labels/media companies have been doing it for centuries.
- blackqueeriroh 3mo ago
  THANK YOU! And the idea that copyright actually helps individuals is such bullshit I can’t even believe anyone believes it! On a site filled with free software advocates. Absurd.
conradkay 3mo ago
Those are the maximum penalties though It's seemingly $3,000 per book, so they could've (and did, partially) just bought the books themselves for way cheaper, and with only a fraction of that money going to the authors
- jeroenhd 3mo ago
  > could've (and did, partially) just bought But they didn't. The fact they partially did proves that they knew they should've, so they can't even claim ignorance.
consensus1 3mo ago
That is a false statement. Gaining commercial advantage means selling pirated copies which Anthropic absolutely did not do, so none of your following statements are correct either.
- pier25 3mo ago
  It is an indisputable fact that Anthropic made money on models trained on those pirated books.
  - consensus1 3mo ago
    It is an indisputable fact that "commercial advantage" in terms of copyright means selling copies. It is also an indisputable fact that Anthropic did npt do that.

by pier25 3mo ago

paxys 3mo ago

It's valid to not take AI companies' side here but people who think publishers are fighing for the little guy's rights are delusional. Tech companies have been exploiting artists for a few years, publishers/record labels/media companies have been doing it for centuries.

blackqueeriroh 3mo ago
THANK YOU! And the idea that copyright actually helps individuals is such bullshit I can’t even believe anyone believes it! On a site filled with free software advocates. Absurd.

conradkay 3mo ago

Those are the maximum penalties though It's seemingly $3,000 per book, so they could've (and did, partially) just bought the books themselves for way cheaper, and with only a fraction of that money going to the authors

jeroenhd 3mo ago
> could've (and did, partially) just bought But they didn't. The fact they partially did proves that they knew they should've, so they can't even claim ignorance.

consensus1 3mo ago

That is a false statement. Gaining commercial advantage means selling pirated copies which Anthropic absolutely did not do, so none of your following statements are correct either.

pier25 3mo ago
It is an indisputable fact that Anthropic made money on models trained on those pirated books.
- consensus1 3mo ago
  It is an indisputable fact that "commercial advantage" in terms of copyright means selling copies. It is also an indisputable fact that Anthropic did npt do that.