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> Vote in a literal tyrant. Tyrant? You may disagree with him, but he got in through the system. Now if he doesn't get out that is another story.

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mallets 2mo ago
Being a tyrant has little to do with term limits or office duration.
- Ntrails 2mo ago
  A couple of dictionary checks suggest some set of: - Ruler who is unrestrained by law or constitution - A usurper of sovereignty - Ruler who uses power oppressively or unjustly Obviously b) is not applicable as per GP. He has also been constrained by the supreme court and others multiple times in this term, which suggests a) is a stretch. c) probably a fair accusation, though I'm not sure I would agree.
one33seven 2mo ago
Hitler was elected too (not saying he is Hitler)
- Gareth321 2mo ago
  Hitler was not elected Chancellor by the German public. Germany had/has a mixed-member proportional system, meaning that coalitions may form after everyone votes President Paul von Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Chancellor on 30 January 1933 after negotiations among conservative politicians who believed they could control him. The Nazi Party was the largest party, but it won only 33.1% of the vote in the final free Reichstag election of November 1932 and never secured a popular majority. Once appointed, Hitler exploited emergency powers and political intimidation to dismantle democratic institutions and convert his government into a dictatorship. During his political ascent he used his Brownshirts - a large, organised paramilitary force - to assault political opponents, break up rival meetings, intimidate voters, and fight street battles, helping destabilise the Weimar Republic and suppress opposition.
  - greedo 2mo ago
    Your comment implies that Hitler seized power despite a lack of popularity. The historical record shows that Hitler was wildly popular in Germany, even up to the end of WW2.
    - Gareth321 2mo ago
      I very clearly provided the exact percentage popularity he had at the height of his democratic rise. Whether you'd like to accurately call that less than a third, or "wildly popular" is I suppose subjective.
      - greedo 2mo ago
        You provided the percentage of voters. This is not an accurate proxy for support.
    - marysol5 2mo ago
      I mean 3 seconds after the Nazis surrendered, there was suddenly no Nazis in Germany

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mallets 2mo ago

Being a tyrant has little to do with term limits or office duration.

Ntrails 2mo ago
A couple of dictionary checks suggest some set of: - Ruler who is unrestrained by law or constitution - A usurper of sovereignty - Ruler who uses power oppressively or unjustly Obviously b) is not applicable as per GP. He has also been constrained by the supreme court and others multiple times in this term, which suggests a) is a stretch. c) probably a fair accusation, though I'm not sure I would agree.

one33seven 2mo ago

Hitler was elected too (not saying he is Hitler)

Gareth321 2mo ago
Hitler was not elected Chancellor by the German public. Germany had/has a mixed-member proportional system, meaning that coalitions may form after everyone votes President Paul von Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Chancellor on 30 January 1933 after negotiations among conservative politicians who believed they could control him. The Nazi Party was the largest party, but it won only 33.1% of the vote in the final free Reichstag election of November 1932 and never secured a popular majority. Once appointed, Hitler exploited emergency powers and political intimidation to dismantle democratic institutions and convert his government into a dictatorship. During his political ascent he used his Brownshirts - a large, organised paramilitary force - to assault political opponents, break up rival meetings, intimidate voters, and fight street battles, helping destabilise the Weimar Republic and suppress opposition.
- greedo 2mo ago
  Your comment implies that Hitler seized power despite a lack of popularity. The historical record shows that Hitler was wildly popular in Germany, even up to the end of WW2.
  - Gareth321 2mo ago
    I very clearly provided the exact percentage popularity he had at the height of his democratic rise. Whether you'd like to accurately call that less than a third, or "wildly popular" is I suppose subjective.
    - greedo 2mo ago
      You provided the percentage of voters. This is not an accurate proxy for support.
  - marysol5 2mo ago
    I mean 3 seconds after the Nazis surrendered, there was suddenly no Nazis in Germany