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Mythos/Fable was the state of the art back in March, if not earlier.
by felipeerias 3mo ago
Mythos/Fable was the state of the art back in March, if not earlier.
- danny_codes 3mo agoIt released in June..
- broodbucket 3mo agoTo the public. Mythos has been in active use for quite a while.
- culi 3mo agoIt makes no good sense to evaluate models we don't have access to. For all we know K3 was competitive back then too. Or maybe there's a K4 in the works that blows everything out of the water. Who knows and who cares. There's no way for us to compare
- broodbucket 3mo agoThere isn't, I think the point is in terms of how "far ahead" models are, K3 was likely trained much more recently than Mythos was. It's just something to note, it's not especially prescriptive. Mythos was withheld because of the threat to security and/or marketing stunt (depending on your leaning), I don't see what benefit there could be for not releasing K3 immediately.
- adamisnotroman 3mo agoI wonder if Fable now is actually better than the Mythos in March and if it's actually the same model. Could just be more Anthropic shenanigans.
- solumunus 3mo agoIsn’t Fable just a restricted version of Mythos?
- dannyw 3mo agoMythos Preview was also priced at $125/million token output. Completely different pricing class.
- Aboutplants 3mo agoSo China is now only 4 months behind US frontier models now when the rule of thumb was 6 months just a little while ago.
- softwaredoug 3mo agoTo be fair the lag varies tremendously. When Deepseek first came out it was competitive with frontier lab models at the time.
- culi 3mo agoWell the same is true for Kimi. Before it, Fable was at the lead. Kimi is at the same level as Fable generally. Sometimes better, sometimes worse.