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Sketch lost the market to Figma, and now Figma is losing the market to vibe coding. I'm not sure what the value proposition of Sketch is these days apart from

Sketch lost the market to Figma, and now Figma is losing the market to vibe coding. I'm not sure what the value proposition of Sketch is these days apart from local, non-cloud editing (although you can even get that with a pretty decent UI these days with Lunacy).

LoganDark 3mo ago
Sketch has always been the app I use for quick throwing-together of things. Figma seems designed for specifically corporate design documents which is icky.
cosmic_cheese 3mo ago
Vector screen-destined assets. Illustrator is print-centric and awkward for the use case, and while Photoshop is technically capable of it that's not what it's made for (also, Adobe CC is just way too bloated for its own good). Figma is oriented around mockups and not as good for assets. There are also platforms which are less vibe-friendly, and old style mockups can still be useful when nailing down a design system across platforms.
- ctippett 3mo ago
  Surely you've got Photoshop (raster) and Illustrator (vector) mixed up?
  - cosmic_cheese 3mo ago
    Nope. A lot of people use Photoshop for vector screen-destined graphics, because even though it's raster-dominant, it's reasonably capable of vector too. Illustrator is vector-dominant, but as noted, it's aimed mainly at print-destined vector graphics.
    - ctippett 3mo ago
      I stand corrected then. It's been over a decade since I last used Photoshop, so my familiarity with its capabilities are obviously well out of date, I never would've considered it for any sort of vector-based work.
tombert 3mo ago
Doesn't Apple already have a loose competitor to Figma? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeform_%28Apple%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeform_%28Apple%29
- cosmic_cheese 3mo ago
  Not really. Freeform is more of a whiteboarding/brainstorming app. It might be ok for rough wireframes but isn't suitable for high fidelity mockups, asset creation, etc.

LoganDark 3mo ago

Sketch has always been the app I use for quick throwing-together of things. Figma seems designed for specifically corporate design documents which is icky.

cosmic_cheese 3mo ago

Vector screen-destined assets. Illustrator is print-centric and awkward for the use case, and while Photoshop is technically capable of it that's not what it's made for (also, Adobe CC is just way too bloated for its own good). Figma is oriented around mockups and not as good for assets. There are also platforms which are less vibe-friendly, and old style mockups can still be useful when nailing down a design system across platforms.

ctippett 3mo ago
Surely you've got Photoshop (raster) and Illustrator (vector) mixed up?
- cosmic_cheese 3mo ago
  Nope. A lot of people use Photoshop for vector screen-destined graphics, because even though it's raster-dominant, it's reasonably capable of vector too. Illustrator is vector-dominant, but as noted, it's aimed mainly at print-destined vector graphics.
  - ctippett 3mo ago
    I stand corrected then. It's been over a decade since I last used Photoshop, so my familiarity with its capabilities are obviously well out of date, I never would've considered it for any sort of vector-based work.

tombert 3mo ago

Doesn't Apple already have a loose competitor to Figma? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeform_%28Apple%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeform_%28Apple%29

cosmic_cheese 3mo ago
Not really. Freeform is more of a whiteboarding/brainstorming app. It might be ok for rough wireframes but isn't suitable for high fidelity mockups, asset creation, etc.