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Datapoint from the cheap end of the market: I run local models on a couple of Orange Pi SBCs and a decade-old Optiplex with no GPU. What runs usably on that cla
by nmthornhill 3mo ago
Datapoint from the cheap end of the market: I run local models on a couple of
Orange Pi SBCs and a decade-old Optiplex with no GPU. What runs usably on that
class of hardware is almost entirely Chinese open weights — Qwen's MoE builds
(35B total, ~3B active) are the only thing that gives me acceptable speed on
CPU, with Gemma as about the only western exception. I evaluated Kimi too and
ruled it out purely on size.
Whatever the strategic picture is at the top, at the bottom of the market
"weights you can download and run on hardware you already own" is the whole
ballgame, and right now that's mostly Alibaba's to lose.
- johndhi 3mo agoIs Gemma worse?
- indeyets 3mo agoyes. less stable. more hallucinations
- nmthornhill 3mo ago[flagged]
- chr15m 3mo agoI assume this is slow and that makes me curious - what are you using this for?
- nmthornhill 3mo ago[flagged]