hopefully all of the above? at some point the conversation has to go past this reflexive "USA uses tech abusively -> but look at how abusive China is with tech

hopefully all of the above? at some point the conversation has to go past this reflexive "USA uses tech abusively -> but look at how abusive China is with tech -> ..." back-and-forth to acknowledging that neither party is your savior -- and then (hopefully) acting upon and coordinating around that understanding.