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What ethics do you see being superior in the company known for exposing underages to gambling? The anyone elses must be really bad guys. Yes I like my deck and

What ethics do you see being superior in the company known for exposing underages to gambling? The anyone elses must be really bad guys. Yes I like my deck and I respect their contributions to gaming on linux, but Valve is no saint.

VerifiedReports 2mo ago
Virtue signal received.
totetsu 2mo ago
I always think now it’s funny that we Hated valve when steam was first introduced. Their pioneering of always online DRM and no physical media, soon to be followed by Bethesdas horse Armour micropayment dlc. The base line has shifted soo far from the days of freely auto p2p downloading of fan made skins on map load in q3arena.
- ChoGGi 2mo ago
  I was on steam beta, I thought it was great. No more having to dig around for patches, all my games in one place. It has its ups and downs, but I can't think of any other platform I'd rather use (though merit wise gog wins).
mort96 2mo ago
The gaming market is full of gambling. Steam has problems in that area but they're miles better than what Apple is doing. My impression of Steam is that it's a game delivery platform where some games sadly have gambling elements. My impression of the App Store is that it's a "gambling for kids" delivery platform.
schmookeeg 2mo ago
Really? when you hear "steam" you think "the pioneers in exposing underage kids to gambling" ? I can't even picture gaben with a wispy moustache to twist evilly. I think that would look ridiculous on him. :) Your "bad guys" are my "people are apparently and inexplicably mad that steam doesn't do their parenting for them" guys.
- movedx01 2mo ago
  Yes, they basically pioneered lootboxes, they shaped and scaled microtransaction economy around randomized outcome purchases under disguise of gaming and then slapped a marketplace on top of it(to take even further cut %% nonetheless). > I can't even picture gaben with a wispy moustache to twist evilly. Add a 500m gigayacht to the picture, maybe it will make it easier. Or a fleet.
  - ChoGGi 2mo ago
    > Yes, they basically pioneered lootboxes MapleStory and FIFA have that crown, though Valve certainly did their part to popularize them.
  - artisinal 2mo ago
    Gigayachts that are used for tax avoidance.

VerifiedReports 2mo ago

Virtue signal received.

totetsu 2mo ago

I always think now it’s funny that we Hated valve when steam was first introduced. Their pioneering of always online DRM and no physical media, soon to be followed by Bethesdas horse Armour micropayment dlc. The base line has shifted soo far from the days of freely auto p2p downloading of fan made skins on map load in q3arena.

ChoGGi 2mo ago
I was on steam beta, I thought it was great. No more having to dig around for patches, all my games in one place. It has its ups and downs, but I can't think of any other platform I'd rather use (though merit wise gog wins).

mort96 2mo ago

The gaming market is full of gambling. Steam has problems in that area but they're miles better than what Apple is doing. My impression of Steam is that it's a game delivery platform where some games sadly have gambling elements. My impression of the App Store is that it's a "gambling for kids" delivery platform.

schmookeeg 2mo ago

Really? when you hear "steam" you think "the pioneers in exposing underage kids to gambling" ? I can't even picture gaben with a wispy moustache to twist evilly. I think that would look ridiculous on him. :) Your "bad guys" are my "people are apparently and inexplicably mad that steam doesn't do their parenting for them" guys.

movedx01 2mo ago
Yes, they basically pioneered lootboxes, they shaped and scaled microtransaction economy around randomized outcome purchases under disguise of gaming and then slapped a marketplace on top of it(to take even further cut %% nonetheless). > I can't even picture gaben with a wispy moustache to twist evilly. Add a 500m gigayacht to the picture, maybe it will make it easier. Or a fleet.
- ChoGGi 2mo ago
  > Yes, they basically pioneered lootboxes MapleStory and FIFA have that crown, though Valve certainly did their part to popularize them.
- artisinal 2mo ago
  Gigayachts that are used for tax avoidance.