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Is this something that is more true of a Chinese model than any other model of a different national origin? Genuine question: generalized up from individual mo

Is this something that is more true of a Chinese model than any other model of a different national origin? Genuine question: generalized up from individual models to “models from country X”, is there any country that doesn’t have this exact risk?

itake 3mo ago
In the USA, multiple political parties balance each out other. In China, there is 1 party. 1 view. 1 definition of the Truth.
- TripolitianFish 3mo ago
  I’d love to live in the USA you’re talking about friend. This is just oriental despotism paranoia, whatever cutsie repetition slogan you come up with is not a serious argument.
  - itake 3mo ago
    I've traveled to China ~5x [0], visited a range of cities Tier 1-3 over a collective 5 months, and grew up in the USA. I also currently live in Vietnam (~3.5 years) and spent 5.5 years working for a Singaporean company and a team stationed in Beijing. I don't really know how else to express my experiences living in, working with, and interacting with people in both of these countries. Perhaps you can share how life was like for you in China? Which cities were you in? What made you feel that way about China? [0] - not including HK (~7 trips?) or TW (3 trips)
    - tellrealos 3mo ago
      I am not really interested in reality like this. I just repeat things I read on my social media feed. America bad. China good.
      - sscaryterry 3mo ago
        Lets just say everyone is bad.
    - lossolo 3mo ago
      > I don't really know how else to express my experiences living in, working with, and interacting with people in both of these countries. Could you please describe your experiences, since you didn't? I've also been to China twice now (also multi month trips). I visited Tier 1-3 cities like Shenzhen, Shanghai, Beijing, and Chongqing etc, as well as some smaller cities. I'm very curious to hear about your experiences. How did they differ from the West for you?
  - sciencejerk 3mo ago
    Bot account?
  - Gareth321 3mo ago
    It's not a secret that China is run as an authoritarian dictatorship. Xi Jinping cannot be ousted in an election. He appointed himself for life, and regularly purges anyone who might usurp his power. They don't have a functioning democracy. Are you seriously disputing any of this? None of this excuses issues with American democracy.
    - sajithdilshan 3mo ago
      America is not technically a democracy. It’s a Republic
      - tremon 3mo ago
        Please have your favourite language fabricator explain to you why democracy and republic are not opposing concepts.
    - inigyou 3mo ago
      Why are you responding to a comment about how bad the USA is by talking about how bad China is? Do two wrongs make a right?
  - girvo 3mo ago
    I mean we shouldn’t pretend China isn’t run by a 1 party authoritarian state. It is. And it uses that absolute power how and when it pleases.
  - fc417fc802 3mo ago
    > I’d love to live in the USA you’re talking about friend. You already do! Remember when Musk released an anti-woke model?
- sdsdssweew213 3mo ago
  That balancing doesn't seem to be working very well lately, considering all the insane stuff Trump gets away with it. Sure, China is a dictatorship, but I'm not sure America will meet the definition of a democracy for long anymore.
- ragazzina 3mo ago
  >In the USA, multiple political parties balance each out other. Is this what Americans really believe?
- pllbnk 3mo ago
  2 parties isn't much more than 1. And their definitions of truth are almost identical when it comes to capitalism anyway.
- timedude 3mo ago
  > In China, there is 1 party. 1 view. 1 definition of the Truth. In usa, the two parties seem to disagree on the surface only. Look deeper and you see one course. For example support for Israhell
- ausbah 3mo ago
  2 parties, there are only two parties. and they vote on a majority of issues the same way. defense spending, judicial nominations, rote legislation, etc. at least china isn’t pretending to be anything else
kinj28 3mo ago
I would think everything boils down to source of funding and their narrative should get pushed!
khurs 3mo ago
No, all countries are the same. As per the media bias. If you want a real answer about USA go ask a non-USA model, and if you want a real answer about China, as a non-chinese model
- billobob 3mo ago
  What specifically could you ask Kimi or Deepseek about the US that you can’t ask ChatGPT or Claude?

itake 3mo ago

In the USA, multiple political parties balance each out other. In China, there is 1 party. 1 view. 1 definition of the Truth.

TripolitianFish 3mo ago
I’d love to live in the USA you’re talking about friend. This is just oriental despotism paranoia, whatever cutsie repetition slogan you come up with is not a serious argument.
- itake 3mo ago
  I've traveled to China ~5x [0], visited a range of cities Tier 1-3 over a collective 5 months, and grew up in the USA. I also currently live in Vietnam (~3.5 years) and spent 5.5 years working for a Singaporean company and a team stationed in Beijing. I don't really know how else to express my experiences living in, working with, and interacting with people in both of these countries. Perhaps you can share how life was like for you in China? Which cities were you in? What made you feel that way about China? [0] - not including HK (~7 trips?) or TW (3 trips)
  - tellrealos 3mo ago
    I am not really interested in reality like this. I just repeat things I read on my social media feed. America bad. China good.
    - sscaryterry 3mo ago
      Lets just say everyone is bad.
  - lossolo 3mo ago
    > I don't really know how else to express my experiences living in, working with, and interacting with people in both of these countries. Could you please describe your experiences, since you didn't? I've also been to China twice now (also multi month trips). I visited Tier 1-3 cities like Shenzhen, Shanghai, Beijing, and Chongqing etc, as well as some smaller cities. I'm very curious to hear about your experiences. How did they differ from the West for you?
- sciencejerk 3mo ago
  Bot account?
- Gareth321 3mo ago
  It's not a secret that China is run as an authoritarian dictatorship. Xi Jinping cannot be ousted in an election. He appointed himself for life, and regularly purges anyone who might usurp his power. They don't have a functioning democracy. Are you seriously disputing any of this? None of this excuses issues with American democracy.
  - sajithdilshan 3mo ago
    America is not technically a democracy. It’s a Republic
    - tremon 3mo ago
      Please have your favourite language fabricator explain to you why democracy and republic are not opposing concepts.
  - inigyou 3mo ago
    Why are you responding to a comment about how bad the USA is by talking about how bad China is? Do two wrongs make a right?
- girvo 3mo ago
  I mean we shouldn’t pretend China isn’t run by a 1 party authoritarian state. It is. And it uses that absolute power how and when it pleases.
- fc417fc802 3mo ago
  > I’d love to live in the USA you’re talking about friend. You already do! Remember when Musk released an anti-woke model?
sdsdssweew213 3mo ago
That balancing doesn't seem to be working very well lately, considering all the insane stuff Trump gets away with it. Sure, China is a dictatorship, but I'm not sure America will meet the definition of a democracy for long anymore.
ragazzina 3mo ago
>In the USA, multiple political parties balance each out other. Is this what Americans really believe?
pllbnk 3mo ago
2 parties isn't much more than 1. And their definitions of truth are almost identical when it comes to capitalism anyway.
timedude 3mo ago
> In China, there is 1 party. 1 view. 1 definition of the Truth. In usa, the two parties seem to disagree on the surface only. Look deeper and you see one course. For example support for Israhell
ausbah 3mo ago
2 parties, there are only two parties. and they vote on a majority of issues the same way. defense spending, judicial nominations, rote legislation, etc. at least china isn’t pretending to be anything else

kinj28 3mo ago

I would think everything boils down to source of funding and their narrative should get pushed!

khurs 3mo ago

No, all countries are the same. As per the media bias. If you want a real answer about USA go ask a non-USA model, and if you want a real answer about China, as a non-chinese model

billobob 3mo ago
What specifically could you ask Kimi or Deepseek about the US that you can’t ask ChatGPT or Claude?