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Personally, I don’t think the general-purpose LLM as a standalone tool is long for this world, at least not in consumer-facing applications. I think when the ec
by DrewADesign 3mo ago
Personally, I don’t think the general-purpose LLM as a standalone tool is long for this world, at least not in consumer-facing applications. I think when the economics make more sense, product designers will make things that people actually want to use that will pretty transparently handle whatever model interactions are necessary, when it makes sense. As a consumer, the last things I want in an interface are to a) be sycophantic enough to lessen my judgment, and b) be obstinate, obtuse, or argumentative, or generally just be something that I have to explain things to. I think a lot of tech folks are far more biased than they realize by the “ooh, neato” factor when imagining how nontechnical people might want to use things. And the weight of these tools just feels wrong for what a lot of people use them for: the thing that plays whatever music I feel like hearing absolutely does not need to be able to generate a volumes of fanfic about the movie that song was in. It’s abstractly impressive that something could do that, but it’s just not useful.
- phist_mcgee 3mo ago>As a consumer, the last things I want in an interface are to a) be sycophantic enough to lessen my judgment This is EXACTLY what people like/are addicted to about chatbots. My sister-in-law bombed an interview and asked AI about her answers to the interviewer's questions, chatgpt or whatever it was told her that her answers weren't bad, but that the interviewer could not see the gold in her responses. She said she felt much better. I see this effect with all the non-tech people in my life
- oska 3mo agoI prefix many of my LLM chat sessions with this line > Chat rules : no sycophancy or over-agreeableness (But even with that rule it's still necessary to be discerning about the responses you get and to push back against points made, or words used)
- engineer_22 3mo ago> I don’t think the general-purpose LLM as a standalone tool is long for this world, at least not in consumer-facing applications. I use AI chat every day, I find it endlessly useful. It’s replaced google search.
- deadbabe 3mo agoGoogle search still happens, it’s just your agent doing it.
- UncleOxidant 3mo agoGoogle search is basically Gemini now. You get a Gemini summation including several links.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 3mo ago"You get a Gemini summation including several links." Who does "you" refer to Me, I don't get a Gemini summation (Tested with old version of Chrome) As such I do not believe that "Google search is basically Gemini now" I believe Google search is still scanning through a doclist to find which documents, if any, contain words parsed from a query. These documents are pointed to by the URLs I get in the SERPs I do not get any Gemini summation
- efitz 3mo agoA typical US user using a typical browser with typical settings gets an AI summary above search results. If this doesn’t describe you, then ymmv. Talk to your government or turn down your content filtering or reset the default settings in your browser, if you want to see what we see.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 3mo agoWhy use the term "you" Does it mean the HN reader What if that reader is "non-typical" HN comments have argued for many years that HN users are not representative of the majority of www users
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 3mo agoI have read that some HN users do not like "AI summaries"
- DrewADesign 3mo ago