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Is this even legal? My understanding from the article at techcrunch and the hackbright about page suggests hackbright is charging tuition ($7500) for participa

by jerrya 14y ago

Is this even legal? My understanding from the article at techcrunch and the hackbright about page suggests hackbright is charging tuition ($7500) for participation in the program. It's late for me, so maybe I am forgetting something, but what is the legal basis for being able to discriminate on the basis of sex for an educational program, especially from an organization that doesn't appear to be a non-profit, or accredited in any manner. Seems like a great program. I know some young men that would benefit from such a program, the intensive environment, the location within the heart of the SF Bay hiring region, the networking, etc.

hayksaakian 14y ago
It doesn't seem like they're offering any degree or claiming to, simply giving training for a fee is fair game.
zedshaw 14y ago
There's quite a few same-sex educational organizations around. I think you're confusing this with equal opportunity employment, which only applies to certain sized companies or ones that take Federal money.
- jerrya 14y ago
  Well, I think I am comparing it to any company selling any product, of which very few seem allowed to discriminate on the basis of sex.
  - smsm42 14y ago
    Some definitely are. I don't think there are many male waiters in Hooters, are there?
    - jerrya 14y ago
      That's employment discrimination, not discrimination of who your customers are. The case of Hooters vs. the EEOC is discussed here: http://blogs.findlaw.com/free_enterprise/2009/04/can-men-be-hooters-girls-when-can-businesses-hire-only-women.html http://blogs.findlaw.com/free_enterprise/2009/04/can-men-be-... Perhaps a better comparison would be to women only gyms. If you google "are women only gyms legal" you'll come up with a slew of articles suggesting women only gyms are probably not legal, up until the various state legislatures pass specific laws making them legal. I am not a lawyer, I have no good idea if hackbright is operating legally or not, but I wouldn't be surprised to find what they are doing is not legal.

by jerrya 14y ago

hayksaakian 14y ago

It doesn't seem like they're offering any degree or claiming to, simply giving training for a fee is fair game.

zedshaw 14y ago

There's quite a few same-sex educational organizations around. I think you're confusing this with equal opportunity employment, which only applies to certain sized companies or ones that take Federal money.

jerrya 14y ago
Well, I think I am comparing it to any company selling any product, of which very few seem allowed to discriminate on the basis of sex.
- smsm42 14y ago
  Some definitely are. I don't think there are many male waiters in Hooters, are there?
  - jerrya 14y ago
    That's employment discrimination, not discrimination of who your customers are. The case of Hooters vs. the EEOC is discussed here: http://blogs.findlaw.com/free_enterprise/2009/04/can-men-be-hooters-girls-when-can-businesses-hire-only-women.html http://blogs.findlaw.com/free_enterprise/2009/04/can-men-be-... Perhaps a better comparison would be to women only gyms. If you google "are women only gyms legal" you'll come up with a slew of articles suggesting women only gyms are probably not legal, up until the various state legislatures pass specific laws making them legal. I am not a lawyer, I have no good idea if hackbright is operating legally or not, but I wouldn't be surprised to find what they are doing is not legal.