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I always thought the “you will own nothing” expression referred to a Gini coefficient of 1, not 0. The intent of abolishing private property would presumably b
by jplrssn 4mo ago
I always thought the “you will own nothing” expression referred to a Gini coefficient of 1, not 0.
The intent of abolishing private property would presumably be the latter.
- rexpop 4mo agoDepends on if you're scaremongering about Capitalists or Commies.
- jplrssn 4mo agoThat’s true. But in a world with monthly toothbrush subscriptions one of those end states feels much closer than the other.
- inigyou 4mo agoCapitalists say "you will own nothing" and want a Gini coefficient of 1. Communists don't say "you will own nothing" - they say "abolish private property" and refer to a Gini coefficient of 0.
- hughw 4mo agocommunists really say "social ownership of the means of production"
- kakacik 4mo agoIt was tried many times, it never worked for exactly 1 same reason over and over again - for all that utopia to actually work sustainably long term, it expects ideal citizens. As in selfless, truly dedicated to society above their own needs, uncorruptable and non-realistic in other ways. I've seen it personally fail miserably and destroy entire nation's spirit for generations to come (on top of other things destroyed for good). Needless to say, capitalism with its harshness to laziness and carrot on the stick for hard workers got within 2 generations massively ahead, to the point where Gorbachev didn't believe it wasn't Potemkin village setup when visiting some random grocery store in western Germany and seeing the vast amount of produce and quality available to everybody, on level even he personally could only dream of back home.
- inigyou 4mo agoChina is ahead of the US right now though
- subsaharancoder 4mo agoA Great Leap Forward..some might say...