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Trust me there are plenty of us using cloud AI to actually ship stuff. We just aren't writing blog posts about it.
by resonious 3mo ago
Trust me there are plenty of us using cloud AI to actually ship stuff. We just aren't writing blog posts about it.
- dominotw 3mo agowhat did you ship?
- stavros 3mo agoWhenever I've answered this question, the reply was always "this is shit", so I don't bother now. Bad faith questions just shouldn't be answered.
- Forgeties79 3mo agoThis just feels like a bad faith comment designed to spike the conversation entirely.
- speedster217 3mo agoAgreed. AI has been "just trust me bro" for so long. People need to show receipts instead of spreading vague hype
- Forgeties79 3mo agoEspecially given the wildly unsustainable rate of investment.
- dominotw 3mo agoshipped = paying real users ( or a non profit with users) doesnt matter what subjective opinions are. shipped is not pushing something on github.
- dofm 3mo agoMy definition would be "users waiting for it who received it"; that's the one that fits the broadest real world definition of the word. Not everything is an organisation, not everyone is paying.
- lovich 3mo agoIf the only user is the author, then I don’t see a meaningful distinction between shipped and not shipped. It’s like a blacksmith who said they invented a new tool with great value but they built it themselves and no one else is willing to use it because it’s so customized to their workflow. Edit: I’ll add a caveat that I’d agree it was shipped if it’s making the author money even if they are the only user, but otherwise it all smells like dotcom era Pets.com level of selling a dollar for 99 cents and claiming it’s the future.
- apparent 3mo agoI have used AI to ship software that users pay for.
- apparent 3mo agoWhat a weird thing to downvote without comment. You doubt this? I am literally using AI right now to update software that generates tens of thousands of dollars of revenue annually.
- aytigra 3mo agoMany very well made software written without any AI was never "shipped" because there were no people who wanted to pay for it, many very poorly made software was shipped because demand and marketing did the job. So evaluating software by "shipped or not" is just useless.
- dofm 3mo agoIf you characterise questions as bad faith so you don’t have to answer, sure. Since this is my thread, and since I am an exasperated freelancer who has made most of his post-dot-com career from writing exactly the kind of quite small, simple, unambitious, often internal things for smaller customers that nobody would confuse with anything cool, who is trying to understand how AI is going to make his life any better when it’s so opaque, fast moving, poorly documented and full of unverifiable claims battling unverifiable claims, let me assure you that the following question is not being asked in bad faith: What did you ship?
- stavros 3mo agoI've shipped small, simple, unambitious internal things for our company that saved people lots of time, and I've shipped them in minutes rather than the a day or two they used to take. I've just shipped a migration from our old auth service to the new one in a week, a migration that we've put off for three years because it would take the team months to finish. I've shipped small side-projects that I'm the primary (and usually only) user of, but they now take me two days rather than weeks of effort and learning (e.g. https://www.writelucid.cc https://www.writelucid.cc, https://pine.town https://pine.town, https://stavrobot.stavros.io https://stavrobot.stavros.io, https://github.com/skorokithakis/dracula https://github.com/skorokithakis/dracula). I've made changes in OSS apps that I just wouldn't have made otherwise (https://github.com/futo-org/android-keyboard/pulls/skorokithakis https://github.com/futo-org/android-keyboard/pulls/skorokith...), and even some closed-source ones (https://www.stavros.io/posts/adding-a-feature-to-a-closed-source-app/ https://www.stavros.io/posts/adding-a-feature-to-a-closed-so...). I've shipped hardware projects that would have taken me months of learning in a few days (https://www.stavros.io/posts/i-made-a-voice-note-taker/ https://www.stavros.io/posts/i-made-a-voice-note-taker/). How's that?
- taosx 3mo agoThis is exactly why people shouold share what they are doing with ai, so we know whwn it works, the scope, tech...etc. Thank you for sharing.
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- itishappy 3mo agoWhy assume bad faith? I've witnessed a barrage of "proof of concepts" at my dayjob by folks who have zero intention of ever hooking up their dashboard to our actual messy data. Shipping is still a major barrier. Is your experience meaningfully different?
- kittoes 3mo agohttps://github.com/ByteTerrace/Puck/blob/main/src/Puck.World/README.md https://github.com/ByteTerrace/Puck/blob/main/src/Puck.World... "Shipped" is a bit strong in my case, but I think this counts as something that isn't mere slop.
- dandellion 3mo agoOne sentence into that readme I can tell you that yes, it most definitely counts as slop.
- kittoes 3mo agoThat's fair critique, the README itself is indeed slop explicitly written by bots for bots. What it actually does and how it works is actually pretty neat if you care to look.
- Chris2048 3mo agoThen.. why would you link to the readme if you know it's slop? What's the point of a slop README?
- kittoes 3mo ago'Cause I don't have any quality user-facing documentation yet; that README is for bots. None of the interfaces have had a chance to settle, so any time spent accurately and humanely documenting what the project is capable of right now is an investment I cannot afford. I figured most people would just give it over to their favorite LLM with whatever instructions they prefer for translation because that's what I would've done...
- Chris2048 3mo agoWhat does "that README is for bots" mean? Are you implying it is some kind of special language written by and correctly understood by bots/LLMs, but otherwise semantically coherent?
- ch4s3 3mo agoMy team redid a bunch of our ETL. I personally built a programming language that you can download and use, and I’m about to release an iOS app(in a few weeks).
- ksaun 3mo agoI'm hesitant to respond, because I haven't shipped yet and I haven't shown any evidence. But I am close enough to completion that I am certain Claude's work will be sufficient to ship. I'm making a fairly simple game, a single player 2D roguelite strategy game. More context here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48886151 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48886151 From an implementation perspective, it is about 80% complete, where by "complete", I mean "adequately polished such that I could ship it." (I'm not interested in providing evidence of my claim at this time, and you are welcome to not believe me.) Most of the remaining 20% are optional game modes I could choose to cut (and may, for gameplay reasons). I do not contend that the code is excellent. But to whatever extent the code is "slop", that has not meaningfully inhibited the ongoing development or caused noticeable issues with the player experience. The game is not especially ambitious, but it's something I would have been unable to create without genAI. The version of me that could have made it without genAI would have taken > 10x as long to get as far as I've gotten.
- password4321 3mo agoMost of "What are you working on?" is AI assisted; not much is shipped. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=working%20author%3Adavid927&sort=byDate https://hn.algolia.com/?query=working%20author%3Adavid927&so...
- Thanemate 3mo agoChecking all the past "what are you working on?" threads just to realize that, somewhere in August 2024 stuff just exploded and the average thread goes reached ~1000 messages, from ~50 pre-August.
- dominotw 3mo agoTons of ppl got into CS in last few years worldwide.
- fc417fc802 3mo agoI don't think that explains it. CS has been an extremely popular degree for at least the past 20 years. Not to mention coding bootcamps and the like. The obvious notable event circa 2024 was LLMs becoming reasonably useful for code assistance (IMO and IIRC OFC).
- 6510 3mo agoThinking about it a better question [for me] would be what might have but didn't ship because of LLMs.
- ncphillips 3mo agoThat’s an interesting question, in particular because I don’t think I have a single example
- dofm 3mo agoI have been thinking about this for a while, because I personally need a career pivot but I was going to move into personalised training, and I think AI likely really messes with the viability of that.
- resonious 3mo agoJust features for the client. The same stuff I was shipping before but much faster and more stable.
- tracerbulletx 3mo agoI shipped this shader based video compositor as part of a bigger project ive been working on since before LLMs but the compositor was 100% ai and it works fantastically. It's not a huge project but I and a number of my users use it. https://lowkeyviewer.com/studio/ https://lowkeyviewer.com/studio/
- Schiendelman 3mo agoI've shipped (to TestFlight) a fairly fun video game that's tricking my friends into working out: https://reverdure.yourstrategy.co https://reverdure.yourstrategy.co
- girvo 3mo agooperatorsval.gg Which is basically a fancy calendar and team management system for my Valorant Premier team haha It’s on my GitHub as operators-premier-manager but note it is not great: it serves its purpose which is to wrangle my team to show up for practice and scrims
- properbrew 3mo agohttps://whistle-enterprise.com https://whistle-enterprise.com
- ncphillips 3mo agoI’ve used it for several improvements to our wysiwyg. I was able to refactor to a much more cohesive architecture that is making future work much easier/safer. We got a fzf like search algorithm for an autocomplete that includes marking which characters matched. It fixed some jank performance issues I was struggling to track down. Fixed small several bugs last week without even open the editor. It wrote tests that confirmed the bugs, then fixed them. Then I manually confirmed as well. It built a double entry event log. A single application event produces two logs, one for the person doing the action, one for the person being acted upon. For a nasty problem we have, we had AI prototype 2 different solutions. Then we reveiewed them as a team. We threw those out but it was very helpful input into our decision making.
- zabzonk 3mo ago> I’ve used it for several improvements to our wysiwyg. I was able to refactor to a much more cohesive architecture that is making future work much easier/safer. We got a fzf like search algorithm for an autocomplete that includes marking which characters matched. It fixed some jank performance issues I was struggling to track down. so, basically did some vague, almost incomprehensible stuff. seems par for the course.
- dpark 3mo agoHow was any of that incomprehensible? They gave a list of some actual things they shipped. The hand wavy dismissal where you pretend they didn’t say anything just exposes your bias. You don’t want to hear a success story so you don’t.
- cgio 3mo agoI did ship a quite efficient quantum simulator as a toy out of other work (and a block truncation certificate as a side-product). https://github.com/cgiogkarakis/qut https://github.com/cgiogkarakis/qut
- BLKNSLVR 3mo ago... replying to internet comments to reassure the fact that cloud AI is worth it because we're 'this close' to shipping a product that allows more efficient usage of cloud AI ... But seriously, a friend of mine has been both amazed and frustrated in equal measure by cloud AI, and I think the frustration part is resultant from the new precedent set by the amazing parts. ... his project is as-yet unshipped.