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Although not explicitly part of the indieweb protocols, RSS and Atom feeds are important too.
by superkuh 3mo ago
Although not explicitly part of the indieweb protocols, RSS and Atom feeds are important too.
- andros 3mo agoh-feed is recommended for the IndieWeb, making your HTML your feed, and RSS/Atom for the rest of the planet.
- superkuh 3mo agoI don't know about you, but I don't know of any native (non website/javascript) software that supports h-feeds. IndiePass was only ever for smartphones and it's fully dead. h-feed is more of a html integrated mark-up for posts than any form of actual separate feed file. This is claimed to be a positive aspect of h-feeds, not being a separate file... but it really isn't. I keep track of all the other indieweb sites I care about via normal rss/atom feeds. h-feeds were an aspiration that did not actually come about. The rest of the indieweb protocols rock though. I looked around andros.dev and found no (real) feeds so I'll probably just forget the site in a week. If it had had a feed I'd have added it to my desktop native readers.
- andros 3mo agoWell, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just letting you know what they recommend :D By the way, andros.dev has an RSS feed.
- account42 3mo ago> Well, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just letting you know what they recommend :D The great thing about hosting your own website is that you can decide for yourself what "standards" and "recommendations" actually make sense for you. > By the way, andros.dev has an RSS feed. You should add <link rel="alternate"> links to the RSS/Atom feed. The way people (or at least I) discover RSS feeds is to paste the blog/article URL into my feed reader - if that can't find the feed then I more than likely just give up and move on. All I can find on your site is a button in the side bar that doesn't even work.
- BoingBoomTschak 3mo agoIt's at https://andros.dev/blog/feed/en/ https://andros.dev/blog/feed/en/ Had to look at the page source to find it, since without JS, the bottom left button does nothing.
- andros 3mo agoModals use JS, that's normal.
- account42 3mo agoIt doesn't need to be a modal and can (should!) fall back to a simple <a> without JS. It also didn't work even with JS for me.
- andros 3mo agoFirst, you're assuming my entire website should work without JavaScript. You don't understand my design reasoning, nor have you asked about the underlying cause. Second, for a modal, I should use a `<dialog>` that opens via a `<button>`, which it already does. JavaScript does the magic. Not a `<a>` as you suggested. Finally, if it's a bug, which I find very strange because it's a very simple piece of code and no one has reported it, you're not posting it in the right place. An email or the contact form would have been more appropriate.
- superkuh 3mo agoI tried manually typing a handful of common feed URLs relative and absolute, a firefox feed auto-finder extension, and a quick ctrl-f for feed in the source. But I guess if running an application is required for your webpages I'm better off not subscribing. That's not my kind of jam but it is understandable if your blog is for profit or it's purpose is to get you a job or something.
- andros 3mo agoThat's why I created a modal that explains the different RSS feeds for subscribing and their possibilities. My blog is over a decade old, and I've never used advertising, had sponsored articles, or tried to monetize it (except for asking for donations to maintain the server). I've written freely, sharing knowledge, creating tutorials, and developing courses. Your comment makes me lose the motivation to keep doing it.
- BoingBoomTschak 3mo agoThey're not just "important", a blog without RSS/Atom feed is like a car without wheels.
- AndrewKemendo 3mo agoI’ve never had an rss on any blog/site I’ve ever hosted and never felt like I’m missing anything What is the advantage to me of maintaining an rss? Is there some giant rss feed following community I’m missing?
- andros 3mo agoCurrently, the RSS feed is what's driving the most traffic to my blog.
- sjs382 3mo agoIs there some giant rss feed following community I’m missing? Yes
- BoingBoomTschak 3mo agoDo you think I'll just check manually every day to see if you wrote a new post? That for each and every blog I follow? That's like comparing old school Windows software updating where you "just have to go on the website and read the news" vs `apt update && apt upgrade`.
- AndrewKemendo 3mo agoMy assumption was that nobody checks rss feeds since the iPhone came out anymore, but apparently I’m wrong
- mbrndtgn 3mo agoWhy since the iPhone? RSS feeds on my phone were my preferred way of reading blogs before responsive web design was a thing.
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