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I'm assuming "AI images" means realtors using AI to stage empty rooms with furniture. I'm honestly fine with that as long as it's labeled. Having just done an

by cj 3mo ago

I'm assuming "AI images" means realtors using AI to stage empty rooms with furniture. I'm honestly fine with that as long as it's labeled. Having just done an apartment search a few months ago, AI staged images are surprisingly good quality. It's difficult to detect it as AI when going through a bunch of listings quickly. But yea, I guess it can cause confusion if it sticks a Peloton (or whatever) in a space where it won't actually fit.

pinnola 3mo ago
I just moved into a new apartment and tried using AI for layout inspiration. Every single attempt expanded the room, shrunk furniture, and even changed where walls were. Landlords should not be using tools to stage units, it's going to lead to false expectations on the size of apartments.
- cj 3mo ago
  The listings I saw with AI staging usually alternated photos, 1 photo unstaged, the next photo staged. Which meant you could toggle between the staged and unstaged photo. I didn’t notice any warping or distortion.
- dofm 3mo ago
  Yeah. With CAD models, every single trick I have tried to make photo mock-ups with an AI image-to-image conversion, whether using a line art or canny edge detector or just a shaded source object, has seen the AI ultimately ignore the cues in some generations, no matter what I do, and I would expect it to work a lot better with room photography.
- duskwuff 3mo ago
  There are software tools made specifically for staging (and de-staging!) real estate photos. I don't know if they're using off-the-shelf image models or not, but they have capabilities like restricting changes to specific regions of the image which aren't available in services like ChatGPT. (De-staging is a particularly neat trick - if a property still has some of the current tenant's belongings in it, an AI model can remove those items to show what the room would look like empty.)
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coffeefirst 3mo ago
In the 1960s Campbells Soup got in trouble with the FTC for using marbles to raise the ingredients and make the soup look fuller than it was. This was the real standard for deceptive advertising. I dont care about simulating furniture placement specifically, but most use of AI in advertising that I see today would not be acceptable under that standard.
- jockm 3mo ago
  I would love to see that statement backed up with data. If you look at the other comments they are talking about more than just furniture
  - coffeefirst 3mo ago
    Yeah on second read I realize my comment was unclear; I don’t think this is okay. Fixed.
Gigachad 3mo ago
AI images being able to deceive you isn’t justification, if anything it’s the opposite. The staged furniture is there to help you visualise the size of the room. While AI furniture tricks you while not accurately representing the room size and layout.

by cj 3mo ago

pinnola 3mo ago

I just moved into a new apartment and tried using AI for layout inspiration. Every single attempt expanded the room, shrunk furniture, and even changed where walls were. Landlords should not be using tools to stage units, it's going to lead to false expectations on the size of apartments.

cj 3mo ago
The listings I saw with AI staging usually alternated photos, 1 photo unstaged, the next photo staged. Which meant you could toggle between the staged and unstaged photo. I didn’t notice any warping or distortion.
dofm 3mo ago
Yeah. With CAD models, every single trick I have tried to make photo mock-ups with an AI image-to-image conversion, whether using a line art or canny edge detector or just a shaded source object, has seen the AI ultimately ignore the cues in some generations, no matter what I do, and I would expect it to work a lot better with room photography.
duskwuff 3mo ago
There are software tools made specifically for staging (and de-staging!) real estate photos. I don't know if they're using off-the-shelf image models or not, but they have capabilities like restricting changes to specific regions of the image which aren't available in services like ChatGPT. (De-staging is a particularly neat trick - if a property still has some of the current tenant's belongings in it, an AI model can remove those items to show what the room would look like empty.)

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coffeefirst 3mo ago

In the 1960s Campbells Soup got in trouble with the FTC for using marbles to raise the ingredients and make the soup look fuller than it was. This was the real standard for deceptive advertising. I dont care about simulating furniture placement specifically, but most use of AI in advertising that I see today would not be acceptable under that standard.

jockm 3mo ago
I would love to see that statement backed up with data. If you look at the other comments they are talking about more than just furniture
- coffeefirst 3mo ago
  Yeah on second read I realize my comment was unclear; I don’t think this is okay. Fixed.

Gigachad 3mo ago

AI images being able to deceive you isn’t justification, if anything it’s the opposite. The staged furniture is there to help you visualise the size of the room. While AI furniture tricks you while not accurately representing the room size and layout.