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I don't understand how this is legal. Isn't this malware? Isn't it illegal to install malware on someone's computer without their permission? Or is this very il
by mcv 3mo ago
I don't understand how this is legal. Isn't this malware? Isn't it illegal to install malware on someone's computer without their permission? Or is this very illegal, but nobody cares about that anymore?
- nemomarx 3mo agoyou'd need to legally prove it's malware and they would definitely claim it's useful software tools that come with the hardware or something
- jwrallie 3mo agoI guess it’s becoming harder for MS to define malware in a way that would catch this behavior but does not flag their own products as well.
- jasonfarnon 3mo ago"Isn't it illegal to install malware on someone's computer without their permission?" Yeah but you almost certainly granted permission to allow updates from our "Partners" when you installed windows. How did you miss clause III of romanette 2 in the 6th paragraph right in front of your face on page 26 of the ToS?
- hedora 3mo agoTou probably agreed to this when you broke the seal on the box that contained the monitor and a copy of the agreement you just agreed to. If you think that’s bad, don’t ask what you agreed to by reading this comment. I miss the days when contracts required two-party consent, or at least “meeting of the minds” / negotiations.
- mcv 3mo agoThere have been courts that have voided unreasonable EULAs, I believe. I suspect this can be fought too. But getting actual meaningful consequences for the manufacturers to make them stop doing this, may be a different matter.
- account42 3mo agoWhen individuals test the boundaries of the law, they go to jail or get fined to bankruptcy. When corporations test the boundaries of the law they get to try again next year. There need to be consequences for even trying to impose bad faith contracts.
- RajT88 3mo agoIt is legal by default. The question is: why isn't it illegal? Some quick searching suggests this scenario hasn't been tested in the courts. Like most things, you have to take it to the federal courts and establish case law, OR pass a law (good luck). It shouldn't be allowed. Microsoft shouldn't allow this, but they do, because they like having revenue from business partners.
- hulitu 3mo ago> Isn't this malware? The definition of malware was twisted by the tech giants to exclude their spying practices. Spyware is only spyware if it is not made or blessed by Microsoft, Google or Apple.
- GreenWatermelon 3mo agoStrong "Our righteous telemetery vs Their barbaric spyware" vibes