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Linux is great if you win the hardware support lottery. I've had several laptops where audio just doesn't work even on rolling releases. Or the screen freezing

Linux is great if you win the hardware support lottery. I've had several laptops where audio just doesn't work even on rolling releases. Or the screen freezing up constantly. This was all with relatively new hardware within the last year or so. My issue with the Linux community is if you bring this up it's all of a sudden the fault of everyone but Linux. The end user should of picked better hardware. The hardware OEMs should of shipped Linux support. The end user is lazy for not installing an RC kernel. Macs are great, but my current workhorse computer has a 2TB SSD, and only cost 550$ with the SSD upgrade. Vs 2000$ for the cheapest MacBook with a 2TB SSD

regexorcist 3mo ago
> Linux is great if you win the hardware support lottery. This is fairly easy to do by just not buying the absolute latest hardware. Installing something like Fedora in a 8-12 month old laptop I just can't recall last time I had issues.
- 999900000999 3mo ago
  How exactly would a new Linux user know this ? What happens when they install Ubuntu and the Wifi doesn't even work ? An experienced Linux user might figure it out. A new user would, very reasonably, assume Linux doesn't work and reinstall Windows.
  - fsflover 3mo ago
    > How exactly would a new Linux user know this ? It's easy: whatever is preinstalled will be guaranteed to work reliably. Worked for me.
    - 999900000999 3mo ago
      So sticking with Windows because that's what the computer probably shipped with ?
      - fsflover 3mo ago
        No, buying preinstalled Linux.
- frollogaston 3mo ago
  I've had plenty of issues on ~2y old hardware too. Does your laptop sleep properly, do the fans scale properly, do wireless chips like Bluetooth and wifi work right, does audio (incl over BT) work, and does it switch between graphics cards if applicable?
  - Gigachad 3mo ago
    To be fair Windows also can't sleep properly.
    - frollogaston 3mo ago
      Yeah that's kinda true, but Linux is worse about it. And Hackintosh is the ultimate in not sleeping. Users of both will still often claim their machine works perfectly, and when you ask about sleep, shrug and say sleep isn't needed.
drnick1 3mo ago
You don't have to win the hardware support lottery if you do a bit of research or buy a laptop made for it.
- 999900000999 3mo ago
  >or buy a laptop made for it. Which is usually at least 2x as much if we're talking about buying a System 76 laptop. Windows laptops go on sale very often. Although I will admit I have an HP laptop I brought last December that worked out of the box with Ubuntu. Nvidia drivers and all.

regexorcist 3mo ago

> Linux is great if you win the hardware support lottery. This is fairly easy to do by just not buying the absolute latest hardware. Installing something like Fedora in a 8-12 month old laptop I just can't recall last time I had issues.

999900000999 3mo ago
How exactly would a new Linux user know this ? What happens when they install Ubuntu and the Wifi doesn't even work ? An experienced Linux user might figure it out. A new user would, very reasonably, assume Linux doesn't work and reinstall Windows.
- fsflover 3mo ago
  > How exactly would a new Linux user know this ? It's easy: whatever is preinstalled will be guaranteed to work reliably. Worked for me.
  - 999900000999 3mo ago
    So sticking with Windows because that's what the computer probably shipped with ?
    - fsflover 3mo ago
      No, buying preinstalled Linux.
frollogaston 3mo ago
I've had plenty of issues on ~2y old hardware too. Does your laptop sleep properly, do the fans scale properly, do wireless chips like Bluetooth and wifi work right, does audio (incl over BT) work, and does it switch between graphics cards if applicable?
- Gigachad 3mo ago
  To be fair Windows also can't sleep properly.
  - frollogaston 3mo ago
    Yeah that's kinda true, but Linux is worse about it. And Hackintosh is the ultimate in not sleeping. Users of both will still often claim their machine works perfectly, and when you ask about sleep, shrug and say sleep isn't needed.

drnick1 3mo ago

You don't have to win the hardware support lottery if you do a bit of research or buy a laptop made for it.

999900000999 3mo ago
>or buy a laptop made for it. Which is usually at least 2x as much if we're talking about buying a System 76 laptop. Windows laptops go on sale very often. Although I will admit I have an HP laptop I brought last December that worked out of the box with Ubuntu. Nvidia drivers and all.