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Worth noting that gpedit.msc isn't included in Windows Home editions (although there are unsupported ways of adding it). This is also technically asking a lot f

Worth noting that gpedit.msc isn't included in Windows Home editions (although there are unsupported ways of adding it). This is also technically asking a lot for working around issues that shouldn't exist. Microsoft needs to intervene here, this cannot be a normal expectation for using their product.

delta_p_delta_x 3mo ago
Edited with another method.
- fuzzfactor 3mo ago
  Also found in the GUI: System > About > Advanced System Settings link > Hardware tab > Device installation settings Do you want to automatically download manufacturers' apps for your devices? set to No The default setting has been "Yes" for a very long time but most monitors over the years have simply used the default plug-and-play Windows monitor driver instead of installing their own. Triggering no additional downloads for the life of most computers. It just so happens that monitor manufacturers better adhered to the Microsoft guidelines for hardware compatibility earlier and more adequately than most devices. This might very well have been a reliability tactic since graphics drivers were still quite a moving-target shitshow, which in some ways is still ongoing. So people have mostly never gotten accustomed to monitor drivers having any consideration at all, while drivers for graphics themselves and other new hardware has often had some associated downloads that people have become familiar dealing with. Looks like LG finally took this long-standing opportunity to do some deeper enshittification than previously imagined. Simply taking advantage of a domino effect that has been lurking for decades. A couple other related gpedit options if you don't even want the drivers themselves to change after you have gotten them correctly installed: gpedit.msc Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Internet Communication Management > Internet Communication settings Turn off Windows Update device driver searching Set to enabled OK gpedit.msc Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Manage updates offered from Windows Update > Do not include drivers with Windows Update Set to enabled OK
- Someone1234 3mo ago
  That's great, thank you. What's frustrating about that is that Microsoft has also gone out of their way to make it difficult to access the [legacy] System Properties (sysdm.cpl), while not fully reimplementing all the features into the Settings app. Including this one. They've only been working on this 10+ years...
  - delta_p_delta_x 3mo ago
    *.cpl, *.msc, etc are Windows sysadmins' (and developers') bread and butter; Microsoft will never get rid of them. I am betting (maybe hoping...?) that Windows 12 will undo the changes in Windows 8, 10, and 11 as bad experiments and return to what Windows has done best, which is discoverable GUI configuration. Let's see.
    - Someone1234 3mo ago
      You're much more "glass half full" than me, but one can dream.
  - efreak 3mo ago
    What's more frustrating than that is the inability to have more than one control panel open at a time. Have your post of issues software open and want to change display resolution real quick? Sorry, you've lost your place in the list. Security settings are a separate app, but it's even worse because it requires elevation _every time_ before it can reload the list of issues. You thought this executable was already bypassing whatever protection, so you elevate to open the list of exceptions...then lose your place in the log and have to elevate yet again to find out the details...and open each list item in turn because the main list doesn't provide enough details to know know which item you were looking at and there's no detailed view. But you still can't cross-reference against your list of exceptions and forgot to take a screenshot, so you have to start over.
AlienRobot 3mo ago
Me on Windows 7: I don't want to use Linux, you have to keep configuring every single thing so it works. Me on Linux: I don't want to use Windows, you have to keep configuring every single thing so it doesn't show ads.
- driverdan 3mo ago
  Can you even disable all the ads on Windows 11?
  - MatejKafka 3mo ago
    Yes, and it's still fairly easy.
- VorpalWay 3mo ago
  Linux usability has come a long way in recent years. I switched full time to Linux in 2006, but I can absolutely understand those who wouldn't back then. These days? Unless there is a specific piece of software that can't run on Linux (or under Wine), and there is no suitable replacement for it? Yeah I don't know why you would voluntarily stay on Windows (note voluntarily, if IT policy says you must that doesn't count).
  - miki123211 3mo ago
    Accessibility. All accessibility stacks sucks in some respect, but Linux's sucks most of all, and Wayland people in particular don't seem to be willing to compromise on security (which is required for accessibility to work).
    - ThatMedicIsASpy 3mo ago
      Touch goes in there as well. I don't know how they add a new touch keyboard to KDE and have no access to arrow keys. Making it impossible to go up in the terminal. https://i.imgur.com/nOgLqHU.png https://i.imgur.com/nOgLqHU.png
yonatan8070 3mo ago
> Microsoft needs to intervene here Yeah, they've never pushed ads or installed software without the user's consent.

delta_p_delta_x 3mo ago

Edited with another method.

fuzzfactor 3mo ago
Also found in the GUI: System > About > Advanced System Settings link > Hardware tab > Device installation settings Do you want to automatically download manufacturers' apps for your devices? set to No The default setting has been "Yes" for a very long time but most monitors over the years have simply used the default plug-and-play Windows monitor driver instead of installing their own. Triggering no additional downloads for the life of most computers. It just so happens that monitor manufacturers better adhered to the Microsoft guidelines for hardware compatibility earlier and more adequately than most devices. This might very well have been a reliability tactic since graphics drivers were still quite a moving-target shitshow, which in some ways is still ongoing. So people have mostly never gotten accustomed to monitor drivers having any consideration at all, while drivers for graphics themselves and other new hardware has often had some associated downloads that people have become familiar dealing with. Looks like LG finally took this long-standing opportunity to do some deeper enshittification than previously imagined. Simply taking advantage of a domino effect that has been lurking for decades. A couple other related gpedit options if you don't even want the drivers themselves to change after you have gotten them correctly installed: gpedit.msc Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Internet Communication Management > Internet Communication settings Turn off Windows Update device driver searching Set to enabled OK gpedit.msc Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Manage updates offered from Windows Update > Do not include drivers with Windows Update Set to enabled OK
Someone1234 3mo ago
That's great, thank you. What's frustrating about that is that Microsoft has also gone out of their way to make it difficult to access the [legacy] System Properties (sysdm.cpl), while not fully reimplementing all the features into the Settings app. Including this one. They've only been working on this 10+ years...
- delta_p_delta_x 3mo ago
  *.cpl, *.msc, etc are Windows sysadmins' (and developers') bread and butter; Microsoft will never get rid of them. I am betting (maybe hoping...?) that Windows 12 will undo the changes in Windows 8, 10, and 11 as bad experiments and return to what Windows has done best, which is discoverable GUI configuration. Let's see.
  - Someone1234 3mo ago
    You're much more "glass half full" than me, but one can dream.
- efreak 3mo ago
  What's more frustrating than that is the inability to have more than one control panel open at a time. Have your post of issues software open and want to change display resolution real quick? Sorry, you've lost your place in the list. Security settings are a separate app, but it's even worse because it requires elevation _every time_ before it can reload the list of issues. You thought this executable was already bypassing whatever protection, so you elevate to open the list of exceptions...then lose your place in the log and have to elevate yet again to find out the details...and open each list item in turn because the main list doesn't provide enough details to know know which item you were looking at and there's no detailed view. But you still can't cross-reference against your list of exceptions and forgot to take a screenshot, so you have to start over.

AlienRobot 3mo ago

Me on Windows 7: I don't want to use Linux, you have to keep configuring every single thing so it works. Me on Linux: I don't want to use Windows, you have to keep configuring every single thing so it doesn't show ads.

driverdan 3mo ago
Can you even disable all the ads on Windows 11?
- MatejKafka 3mo ago
  Yes, and it's still fairly easy.
VorpalWay 3mo ago
Linux usability has come a long way in recent years. I switched full time to Linux in 2006, but I can absolutely understand those who wouldn't back then. These days? Unless there is a specific piece of software that can't run on Linux (or under Wine), and there is no suitable replacement for it? Yeah I don't know why you would voluntarily stay on Windows (note voluntarily, if IT policy says you must that doesn't count).
- miki123211 3mo ago
  Accessibility. All accessibility stacks sucks in some respect, but Linux's sucks most of all, and Wayland people in particular don't seem to be willing to compromise on security (which is required for accessibility to work).
  - ThatMedicIsASpy 3mo ago
    Touch goes in there as well. I don't know how they add a new touch keyboard to KDE and have no access to arrow keys. Making it impossible to go up in the terminal. https://i.imgur.com/nOgLqHU.png https://i.imgur.com/nOgLqHU.png

yonatan8070 3mo ago

> Microsoft needs to intervene here Yeah, they've never pushed ads or installed software without the user's consent.