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Every country gets the government it deserves. -- Joseph de Maistre, 1811
by kleiba2 3mo ago
Every country gets the government it deserves.
-- Joseph de Maistre, 1811
- kleiba2 3mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_de_Maistre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_de_Maistre
- red-iron-pine 3mo ago> Joseph Marie, comte de Maistre[a] (1 April 1753 – 26 February 1821)[1] was a Savoyard lawyer, diplomat, and political philosopher. He is chiefly remembered as one of the intellectual forefathers of modern conservatism. Sounds like he'd love Trump, then
- scarecrowbob 3mo agoHow do some third graders in Alabama deserve this? How do my 22-year-old waiter friends in rural Texas deserve this? What exactly did they do to deserve this?
- tstrimple 3mo agoThose third graders didn't vote hard enough.
- kleiba2 3mo agoBe precise: the quote does not say "individual people deserve...", it's talking about the country as a whole. And even then, you don't necessarily have to agree with it.
- scarecrowbob 3mo agoIt's easy to hide a lot of objectionable stuff in metonymy. It feels reasonable to me to think of a "country" as the people who live there; doubly so when discussing a putative democracy. But sure, I will entertain the idea that you mean something different that literally every other person I've encountered who has uttered that similar sentiment: if the claim is that the owning-class of the US are seeing the results of their 400-year-long racist, genocidal campaign to enslave the world and exploit every crevice of the planet come home to roost in the form of a decaying ability to present themselves as ethically okay... sure I can agree to that. But honestly, I don't think that's what you're trying to say.