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This. More people should read Simon Wardley. Also China's silent but powerful support of Russia and its invasion.
by tomaskafka 3mo ago
This. More people should read Simon Wardley.
Also China's silent but powerful support of Russia and its invasion.
- epolanski 3mo agoChina relies on Russia on energy. You can't expect them to start sanctioning Russia for ukraine, Israel/US for their middle east shenanigans, etc.
- tomaskafka 3mo agoChina also supports and helps maintain North Korea, and has ties with Iran.
- micromacrofoot 3mo agoIf North Korea were to collapse for any reason it would create a massive refugee issue for China.
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- epolanski 3mo agoA welcome one, china is in a demographic crisis.
- handle584 3mo agoWhy not South Korea? Even ethnic Koreans in China go to South Korea en mass.
- micromacrofoot 3mo agosome would, but keep in mind they've been told that south korea is a hostile state controlled by evil americans for generations people fleeing north korea already often head towards china
- culi 3mo agoChina sanctioned and voted for UN resolutions to sanction Iran in the past. Then Trump baselessly abandoned the JCPOA. Even the US own DNI said it is the consensus of all 18 intelligence agencies that Iran was in compliance and not seeking nuclear weapons. China, correctly, called the renewed sanctions illegal and refused to follow them
- dopa42365 3mo agoWell, trying to isolate and bully a country into submission isn't normal. China wants to happily trade with the rest of the world (absolute horror, truly).
- sscaryterry 3mo agoAnd Trump wants to charge money to use the Strait?! Don't see the difference honestly.
- megous 3mo agoDifference is Trump wanted 20% and Iran like 2%.
- linzhangrun 3mo agoEnergy is not the main reason. China would still stand with Russia without energy. China could never support a pro-Western Ukraine in the first place. The same logic applies to Iran, North Korea, etc. Although China cannot directly express support because of foreign trade, things like the Communist Youth League playing "Katyusha" on the day Russia launched the invasion, and the information direction on social media, have already made their position very clear.
- big-and-small 3mo ago> Energy is not the main reason. China would still stand with Russia without energy. Of course it will because Russia also has cheap raw materials not just exclusively oil and gas. At the same time China does not invest into Russian economy because they don't want competition. Weak Russia is more beneficial for China to buy commodities for cheap and then sell Chinese products back. > China could never support a pro-Western Ukraine in the first place. China is one of largest Ukraine trade partners before and during the war. Ukraine even lobbied for ability to buy Chinese drone parts using EU funds when EU unable to fulfill. So nope - China dont care. They are trading with both Russia and Ukraine.
- linzhangrun 3mo agoHaving trade relations does not mean China supports a country. US has always been China’s largest trading partner, but China <-> US relations can hardly be called "friendly". The CCP government has absolute control over domestic public opinion. The pro-Russia direction on Chinese social media is very clear, although as the war became unfavorable for Putin, voices supporting Ukraine have been allowed a little more in recent years. What the US supports is what China opposes. From Iran to Venezuela, from Gaza to Ukraine, except for a very small amount of "human consensus", it is always and will be like this.
- big-and-small 3mo agoMy point stands: if China was "against" Ukraine they wouldn't sell to Ukraine because a lot of drone manufacturing depends on Chinese components. Of course China does not support Ukraine politically, but that's a different story.
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