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What Fonts Are Websafe in 2009?
- geuis 18y agoPretty good discussion. Thanks for posting this.
- mtarnovan 18y agoInteresting read. Regarding Lucida Grande, read here more: http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/ http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/luci...
- CalmQuiet 18y agoGreat news about improving probabilities of replacing tired standards like Times New Roman and Helvetica. Hope they're right about this generalizing to the general population from their "heavily designer-weighted" samples.
- jpendry 18y agoawsome.
- GHFigs 18y agoIt should be noted that putting Helvetica after Arial in your stylesheet is self-defeating if your aim is to display Helvetica on Macs but Arial on Windows. Macs ship with Arial, so such declarations mean Helvetica will never be used.
- sc 18y agoHistorically, Arial rendered better on Windows than Helvetica, so to offer Macs a form of Helvetica over Arial, you'll generally see: font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Arial, sans-serif;
- hboon 18y agoYes, and GHFigs is pointing out that the article said: font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; which is self-defeating.
- pxlpshr 18y agoOf the new fonts they recommend, I actually really like Calibri which is included in Vista, Office 2007 and Office 2008 for Mac. I wouldn't rely on it solely as the safe assumption is only ~40% +/- 10 of your audience has it, but hopefully in time it will be a nice alternative. Not really a fan of Tahoma, too condensed for the screen in many cases. Calibri is always described as a 'humanist' font, which I think makes it the kind of font you'd be pleased to take home to meet mother. lol
- tel 18y agoThe whole suite of Vista fonts is actually very, very good. Which surprises me pretty much daily.
- Zev 18y agoMicrosoft hired Lucas de Groot to make the C fonts. de Groot's fonts are some of my favorite fonts (Thesis and C fonts are both stunning families)
- RossM 18y agoI'm also a fan of Segoe UI, which (as far as I can tell) is actually used in the Vista dialogs more frequently than Calibri. Unfortunately Calibri doesn't look great when it's used in small sizes so I tend to use Segoe as a small-size alternative.
- jballanc 18y agoGood discussion, but I cannot wait for the day when this is no longer an issue: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/cssatten http://www.alistapart.com/articles/cssatten The @font-face property really needs to find its way into more browsers (IE, I'm looking at you!)...
- halo 18y agoErm, the font-face property was originally a proprietary IE property and Microsoft have supported it since IE4, the snag being you need to convert fonts to OTF format to use them.
- anatoli 18y agoAside from Lucida Grande and Palatino Linotype which everyone already knows about, this list is unbelievably unreliable... perhaps based on their limited sample it would work, but not for any major site that gets visited by other users than just designers.
- alabut 18y agoA more in-depth article with a matrix of available font types: http://24ways.org/2007/increase-your-font-stacks-with-font-matrix http://24ways.org/2007/increase-your-font-stacks-with-font-m...
- RossM 18y agoI was rather surprised to see Georgia missing, however I don't know about it's availability on the Mac. I actually think Myriad Pro is becoming a web-safe font if your primary audience is designers - it's shipped with Photoshop after all.