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German AI consortium releases Soofi S, an open 30B model that tops benchmarks
- raychis 3mo ago[flagged]
- throwa356262 3mo agoI think this news is more about the infrastructure than the model. Either way, happy to see two open models from outside the us-cn duopoly in the same week.
- k__ 3mo ago"Fully open source model" with "Long-term, license-free availability for industry" Nice trick to be not comparable with most other LLMs on the market, open weight or proprietary. But I think, that's the right way.
- mft_ 3mo agoGreat to see more competition in this space, and especially from Europe, but... it's a shame when the benchmarks don't include the current best comparable models. They shows results against Qwen 3.5 and Gemma 3, but Qwen 3.6 and Gemma 4 have been available for ~three months.
- neonstatic 3mo agoI bet it's doing really well against Llama 3 :)
- sajithdilshan 3mo agoBetter late than never. Germans have entered the chat
- petcat 3mo agoMore like Nemotron 3 with benchmaxxing enabled has (re-)entered the chat.
- jbellis 3mo agoIt tops benchmarks because it uses them in its training data. https://x.com/eliebakouch/status/2077425801633427919 https://x.com/eliebakouch/status/2077425801633427919
- sva_ 3mo agohttps://nitter.net/eliebakouch/status/2077425801633427919 https://nitter.net/eliebakouch/status/2077425801633427919 That is very disappointing.
- Tostino 3mo agoThat's just embarrassing. It keeps happening though.
- sajithdilshan 3mo agoDisappointing. Sounds like Volkswagen 2.0
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- krackers 3mo agotraining on the test set is all you need
- ch4s3 3mo agoIt's ready for law school!
- AtlasBarfed 3mo agoscrape the scrapers... all's fair...
- fxwin 3mo agolooks like they have since fixed the dataset, hope they release an updated report (either without the leaked evals or a new checkpoint/weights) https://huggingface.co/datasets/AIML-TUDA/QA-base/commit/2f96f4ba8f4576934ac8b066841c05b8f7f4b044 https://huggingface.co/datasets/AIML-TUDA/QA-base/commit/2f9...
- beklein 3mo agoSome other (as in better) sources I found: - https://huggingface.co/spaces/Soofi-Project/Pretraining-Tech-Report https://huggingface.co/spaces/Soofi-Project/Pretraining-Tech... - https://arxiv.org/pdf/2607.09424 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2607.09424
- doobiedowner 3mo agoHow can we get these things to fight each other for sport? Real battle bots
- skeledrew 3mo ago> the facility runs entirely on renewable energy, is cooled with water from the Eisbach canal, and feeds waste heat into the surrounding Tucherpark neighborhood. That's it right there. Show the others how it's done. Can see going forward most model training being done in winter, making for a proper resource recycling ecosystem.
- chis 3mo agoIt's funny, my reaction was the exact opposite. Details like this show that they're fundamentally unserious and focused on the wrong things. Imagine if Germany, when developing their automotive industry, spent all their time focusing on reusing the waste heat from production to heat homes instead of just building great cars. They probably would not have sold many cars!
- rapind 3mo agoImagine Canada being on fire due to global warming while you write this comment.
- lejalv 3mo agoSurvival! Wrong thing! Stay away! Sell cars, that's what you've got to do, at any price.
- throw-the-towel 3mo agoBut then again, AI is a paperclip maximiser after all...
- justsomehnguy 3mo agoOh no! Must resist... making... papercli
- morsch 3mo agoThat is funny because Germany did in fact use the process ("waste") heat from steel mills for district heating on a large scale. The steel was then used by the automotive industry, among other things. We're talking 50+ years ago.
- frb 3mo agoI wanted to try it today. Had to request access on huggingface, which was still not answered after a day. Given all the Inkling and Kimi announcements, this atm just feels like too little too late to be taken seriously. That said, it’s their first release and I hope they do catch up fast.
- Capitanai 3mo ago[flagged]