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Ruining concrete seems to go against extinction rebellion main goal. According to the World Economic Forum the co2 released during ciment production account for
by nick__m 2mo ago
Ruining concrete seems to go against extinction rebellion main goal. According to the World Economic Forum the co2 released during ciment production account for 8% of global co2 emissions, datancenter are estimated to contribute between 1 and 2 percent....
Math is not theirs forte!
- afandian 2mo agoI imagine their maths is fine. Their objective is to tackle climate change through raising awareness. That happens at the macro scale.
- holbrad 2mo agoAh yes, the majority of people obviously don't know about climate change! It's far grimmer to realise that people know, they just don't think we have an acceptable answer yet. I'm not willing to accept any climate action, if it means I can't go on holiday abroad or it makes my life meaningfully more expensive etc. It's selfish, but we need to solve it in a way that makes people globally richer. (This is one of the great things about renewables coming down in price)
- readthenotes1 2mo agoYou think they did math on this? No, all he did was have a tantrum where they got attention to themselves and patted themselves on the bat for doing something. They didn't think through the ecological results of someone scraping off the destroyed concrete and pouring more.
- inigyou 2mo agoThe ecological results of the protest are negligible, so I don't know why people keep bringing it up
- inigyou 2mo agoWell they didn't ruin a batch of cement at a cement plant did they? They ruined a datacenter construction project, specifically.
- readthenotes1 2mo agoDid the Data Center get canceled? If not, then no it is not ruined and instead what's going to happen? Is someone's going to scrape up a whole bunch of that concrete releasing a whole bunch of carbon dioxide and then someone's going to pour down some more concrete which will increase the CO2 in the atmosphere.
- inigyou 2mo agoSo basically you think burning down an oil company HQ increases climate change?
- card_zero 2mo agoThat sounds likely to be true. They'll move operations to a temporary building while they build a new one. To some extent their ability to make plans will be disrupted, but the effect those plans would have had on the climate is unknown: the result is just that the oil company behaves in a more stupid and poorly-planned way, while doing some extra construction.
- inigyou 2mo agoWhat if every time the oil company got a new HQ, it burned down? Would that increase or decrease climate change?
- card_zero 2mo agoReading between the lines, you're proposing a kind of all-out war between, on one side, all the oil companies and other industries, and on the other side, a bunch of annoying dweebs who throw soup. I encourage this, I think it would be interesting to find out what happens.
- skeaker 2mo agoThis would still pollute less than the usage of the center. You're underestimating how much energy they use once active.