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What exactly are they trying to accomplish? I doubt they would just abandon the project. They would just redo the concrete which would emit even more emissions.
by Aunche 3mo ago
What exactly are they trying to accomplish? I doubt they would just abandon the project. They would just redo the concrete which would emit even more emissions.
- mc32 3mo agoIt’s as productive as people who glue themselves to roadways. It irritates drivers/commuters (who are then more likely to have a negative view of the cause) and it slows traffic resulting in even more fuel usage. Yet, they think they are doing something good.
- afandian 3mo agoYet here we are talking about the environmental impact of Microsoft data centres in NL. We wouldn’t otherwise be.
- Manuel_D 3mo agoAre we talking about the environmental impact? Or are we talking about the vandalism perpetrated by activists? Attention on the protestors is not necessarily attention on the protestors' cause.
- skeaker 3mo ago> Are we talking about the environmental impact? Yes, obviously. Scroll up or down.
- Manuel_D 3mo agoI mostly see commenters quipping about how this will just mean the concert will have to be re poured, resulting in yet more emissions. The bulk of the comments are about the protestors, not the environmental impact of this data center.
- skeaker 3mo agoEmphasis on "mostly" meaning that you do see people talking about the impact. There you go.
- inigyou 3mo agoAnd talking about why climate protestors glue themselves to roadways!
- Sabinus 3mo agoIt's literally a building that turns electricity into reasonably intelligent text and we're still here talking about environmental impacts. Is this where we're at with NIMBYism in the West now? Will there ever be popular support to build industrial production any more?
- junaru 3mo agoYeah people will hear about this and subscribe to chatgpt pro in spite. You have to be special to think this is comparable to paint throwing on works of art or blocking public roads. Everyone outside tech hates AI.
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- junaru 3mo agoIt just redirects me back to this site.
- skeaker 3mo agoVery unintentionally funny for you to say this here of all places.
- vitalyan8184 3mo agois it? from where I stand, hn seems to be one of the exceptionally few remaining places where the mods don't take sides so the obnoxious minority doesn't get to win arguments by silencing everyone else like they do everywhere else.
- inigyou 3mo agoMods don't take sides on issues you pay attention to, maybe. They definitely take sides. Watch: I'll say "free Palestine", and this comment will be deadened soon.
- skeaker 3mo agoThis site literally has a user powered ranking system so dissenting opinions get downvoted. It is an echo chamber.
- 100percentjake 3mo agoThe people around me who seem the most enthusiastic about AI are specifically the non techies using it to make slop images, event flyers, stylized selfies, and asking it if drinking glue is bad for their health.
- skeaker 3mo agoI suppose if you're one of the people that live near where it would be built it might be worth sabotaging it if only to go another week without the incessant hum and brown, filthy tap water.
- mc32 3mo agoIt’s port area. Are you certain the protestors/saboteurs were locals?
- skeaker 3mo agoA port area that uses the same water infrastructure that runs to residential areas, yes. The saboteurs are not named but I would wager that the Dutch group talked about in the article recruited from the area, yes.
- sverhagen 3mo agoRoadway gluing is designed to sway public opinion -> change politics -> affect the corporations. This is designed to... affect the corporations. (Swaying public opinion could be seen as a secondary effect.) I also realize it's not that simple. They probably didn't affect Microsoft here, rather a construction company, who are now calling their insurance company? Or the construction company is eating the cost for the damage, because it's deemed that the site wasn't adequately secured?
- smallpipe 3mo agodelay the project, bring attention to the problem, feel better about themselves by doing “something”. “That achieves nothing” sounds like what a Microsoft PR person would want you to think.
- lp0_on_fire 3mo ago> feel better about themselves by doing “something”. "The real friends are the clicks and attention you receive along the way."
- inigyou 3mo agograbbing attention is literally the point of a protest so yes
- wk_end 3mo agoIn the interest of playing Devil's Advocate, even if they're unlikely to abandon an existing project over this, accounting for potential sabotage and the cost/delays of redoing work might change the calculus of future projects?