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Is it useful? No. Does it stop AI from reading it? Also no. But is it cool? Yes, it is very cool.
by OsrsNeedsf2P 3mo ago
Is it useful? No. Does it stop AI from reading it? Also no. But is it cool? Yes, it is very cool.
- neonmagenta 3mo agoCould definitely make some fun art or advertising pieces with it using blurred objects or people behind it like its frosted glass
- ryant123 3mo agoYeah, it looks good
- inigyou 3mo agoThe demonstration shows that it does stop AI
- sheept 3mo agoIt only works if you give it a screenshot, but it wouldn't work to block AI scrapers or fetch tools, and I think if printed out, it wouldn't work reliably if you took a photo, especially from afar
- legohead 3mo agoI made an image and it fooled GPT. I asked it to look for a hidden message and it found the blurred word. Still cool+fun though.
- goodmythical 3mo agoThe demonstration might, and it may work for certain models with certain prompts, but I just asked gemini if it could see both and it both did see both and gave me a tutorial on how I could see both as if it were a simple magic eye poster.
- pixl97 3mo agoI mean, I've worked for companies where their curated sales demonstrations showed the speed of light is easily breakable... Do your own testing with some thinking applied. https://m.xkcd.com/1217/ https://m.xkcd.com/1217/ I mean, I can defeat AI by putting white text on a white background and turning to a picture. Also means it's worthless for actual humans to read too. Try to actually use it on a site and chances are you'll get an ADA complaint.
- Xirdus 3mo ago> Try to actually use it on a site and chances are you'll get an ADA complaint. I really doubt that. We've had 2 decades of godawful letter-based CAPTCHAs and I don't think anyone got into legal trouble because of it?
- mkl 3mo agoIt would be trivial to train future models to detect and read it though (and some already can, based on other comments in this thread). It only works as much as it does because it's new and reading it hasn't been a goal.
- Cshaya 3mo agosometimes in life there is no reason to kick a rock around besides having fun ;)
- CGMthrowaway 3mo ago> Is it useful? No Seems like it might have some use thwarting Ring/Flock/etc cameras within a specific proximity. It's giving major "They Live" vibes.
- TiredOfLife 3mo agoIs it useful? No. Does it stop AI from reading it? Also no. But is it cool? Also no. Does it give me nausea? Yes yes yes.
- jonplackett 3mo agoI just gave the day dream / pay bills image to ChatGPT and Gemini pro and they both could only tell me the pay bills text (shown with the thin lines)
- xnickb 3mo agoSure, but this is only as useful as useless it is. Meaning the moment this gets wide adoption AI will have 0 issues dealing with it. LLMs are very good at translating one language to another.
- goodmythical 3mo agoGemini flash responds to "can you read both messages here?" with: Yes, this is a clever optical illusion! Depending on which layers your eyes focus on, you can read two entirely different messages in this image: Message 1 (The sharp outline layer): PAY BILLS How to see it: Focus on the sharp, concentric black outline contours of the letters. Message 2 (The soft, blurry shadow layer): DAY DREAMS How to see it: Let your eyes relax/defocus slightly, or step back from the screen to focus on the soft, heavy grey drop shadows. The blurred shadows transform the "P" into a D, the "B" into a D, the "I" into an R, the "L"s into an M, and the "S" is shared!
- hnlmorg 3mo agoIs that reading the image? Or just identifying the source of the image and returning the authors write up on their website? You’d have to use new images with different messages using that font to be sure Gemini isn’t “cheating” here
- Lio 3mo agoNow it would be interesting to give it some text on blurry nonsense to see what affect that has. Probably that it just reports it can't find the second message or that one is not present but I wonder if it would flag it up and if that could be spammed? (Not that I'm suggesting anyone do that you understand).
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- jszymborski 3mo agoI think this illustrates that you can just do stuff without claiming it is useful. Like couldn't you just make this font and call it something like double-entendre or something?
- BugsJustFindMe 3mo agoYou could, but is that what they've done?
- jszymborski 3mo agoI'm just saying they should just drop the dubious claims and just say "I made a font that I think looks cool".
- BugsJustFindMe 3mo agoOh, I fully agree
- nine_k 3mo agoDoing something that's interesting or cool without claiming any pragmatic use is usually called art. This could more readily be seen as an art project.
- hnlmorg 3mo agoOr a hobby.
- jere 3mo agoIt's similar to any anti face detection art. Probably useless but cool.
- Morromist 3mo agoEhh. Probably not many people will be using this particular thing to thwart ai BUT I think it may be a stop on a path towards something very useful someday.
- Tubelord 3mo agoIf you present the text in an image / GIF format it could be useful.
- eru 3mo agoThat's an accessibility nightmare for people with vision issues.
- amarant 3mo agoI once held the belief that any marketing material showed the exact opposite of reality, and this page does exactly that: It doesn't stop AI from reading it, but it sure stops me!
- LoganDark 3mo agoIn most of the examples I can't tell whether the outlined message or the blurred message is the one I'm supposed to be reading
- MomsAVoxell 3mo agoI think this demonstrates very clearly that artificial intelligence is merely a facsimile of human intelligence - and that as soon as human intelligence is capable of identifying, differentiating, and associating facts about a thing, artificial intelligence rapidly gains the same capabilities. And it also highlights the corollary in an amusing way: If we want to defeat AI, we have to become better humans. That means, identifying, differentiating and associating with other humans - not technology. Creating a font for humans but not for AI was a noble task. Obviously, it won't persist. If we want to avoid the takeover by AI, we have to stop dating robots ..
- PaulHoule 3mo agoActually cringe and painful. One thing I don't appreciate about the Fedi is the people for whom technology politics conceals contempt for end users and once you get left of the Fedi it is 100% of the people.