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> its overall intelligence ranks second only to Claude Fable 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol Pretty sure ranking “second” to two others means ranking third.
by paxys 3mo ago
> its overall intelligence ranks second only to Claude Fable 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol
Pretty sure ranking “second” to two others means ranking third.
- scotty79 3mo agoWhich is still great because it means neither of the two best financed labs in the world manage to produce even two models themselves that would beat Kimi K3.
- ekojs 3mo agoYeah, bad wording it seems. Though a charitable interpretation is that Fable 5 and GPT 5.6 Sol are joint 1st place in the measurement.
- paxys 3mo agoDoesn’t matter, the next one is still third.
- cheesecakegood 3mo agoDENSE_RANK() vs RANK() claims another victim
- UqWBcuFx6NV4r 3mo agogirl, we get it, you can count. re-stating your point does not a conversation make.
- jnwatson 3mo agoIf there are two folks standing at gold, nobody gets the silver medal.
- worldthruword 3mo agoBut linearizing an equal magnitude quantities by alphabet priority would be unfair. Magnitude is the important quantity here.
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- antonyt 3mo agoCharitably, you could read this as "its overall intelligence [is in a class that] ranks second only to [that of]..."
- ignoramous 3mo agoThis is actually what's meant but this bikeshed has been built for yak shaving.
- stingraycharles 3mo agoSince we’re bikeshedding: that’s not what yak shaving means.
- vl 3mo agoWhile you are technically correct, in English it’s perfectly fine to say it this way as well. “Second only” here has meaning “next after”, not “number two”.
- light_hue_1 3mo agoYes. "Second to" takes a set as an argument in English. Even the empty set works! England is second to none.
- __mharrison__ 3mo agoSo... France took second to England and Argentina?
- vl 3mo agoFrance’s football team is second only to England’s and Argentina’s. It’s a miracle that in language same words have different meanings depending on context. If this wouldn’t be the case we could have hardcoded NLP algorithmically without inventing these expensive LLMs!
- make3 3mo agoSecond group essentially is how you have to think of it
- avazhi 3mo agoThat’s not what second means in this context in English, and it’s incorrect to use it that way. This is because for something to be second there must have been something in first and only first, and so on; in this case there was a first and a second already, and you cannot amalgamate then because they didn’t tie (and even if they did, they’d be 1 and 2). Both logically and grammatically, it’s incorrect.
- seba_dos1 3mo agoYou're both logically and grammatically wrong. You could even ask an LLM to explain the meaning of the phrase to you if you don't believe that.
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- krackers 3mo agoNot if the others tie for first place.
- Calazon 3mo agoStill third even then.
- Demiurge 3mo agoI think what's implied here, in colloquial terms, is that it's in the second tier.
- paxys 3mo agoExcept saying second tier would be bad marketing, so they decided to change the meaning of words instead.
- UqWBcuFx6NV4r 3mo agookay, so let’s get this straight: even though there are seemingly quite a few people here that clearly understand what is being said. However, the fact that YOU specifically either genuinely do not understand this / have never come across this before, or are being intentionally difficult because of some philosophical disagreement, feel that you can unilaterally assert that they’re “redefining words”? I don’t know if this is genuinely your first day on Earth or something, but if you’re trying to parse English like a programming language then you’re not only making things hard on yourself, but also 99% of people you’ll ever speak to.