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Excited for the deepseek release this week (or at least they announced they'd release this week). Hopefully they also push even closer to SOTA.

kamranjon 3mo ago
Where did you hear about the deepseek release? Would love to follow the same source.
- blovescoffee 3mo ago
  They emailed current paying users of the api (or at least that’s how I got updated).
- benjiro29 3mo ago
  > Where did you hear about the deepseek release? * Tons of gray testing going on for the last 2+ weeks (people at random getting the new v4 model for a while before its removed again). * It also DeepSeek their 3th birthday this Friday. * The its been almost 3 months from the v4 DeepSeek release, and the model everybody have been using, was not post-trained. That is what they have been doing during this time. People trying out the new DSv4 via the web chat with quick game creation tests. People pulling out stuff like Stellaris clones etc. https://cct124.github.io/HORIZON6_DEMO/ https://cct124.github.io/HORIZON6_DEMO/ https://www.showyourcode.app/zh/share/pmpwkamrnai2ue https://www.showyourcode.app/zh/share/pmpwkamrnai2ue The Battlefront like game is impressive. Sure, the soldiers are backwards and the graphics are still kind of basic. But the entire movement system (run/walk/crouch/jump), gun mechanics, grenades, capture points, AI fighting / capturing back, etc ... Ended up playing it way too darn long lol The text is in mandarin but its not too hard to figure out the menu. Sniper is OP ;) The Horizon 6 game has everywhere mesh colliders, shows when you off track dirt being kicked up, etc ... In general, both example are very well polished minus the reverse soldiers issue. And the price is supposed to stay the same (beyond the doubling during Chinese workhours), because everybody got that update.
bayesianbot 3mo ago
That is exciting! I don't understand how DeepSeek can be so cheap with their cache pricing - ~0.003 usd / 1Mtok. 100x less than Kimi K3, or similar numbers against pretty much any other decently sized model to my knowledge. I've been using it whenever possible as even longer agent sessions cost few cents.
- hack1312 3mo ago
  What provider are you using?
  - bayesianbot 3mo ago
    DeepSeek's own API
    - greyb 3mo ago
      Any way to avoid China sales tax or is that just the cost of doing business?
      - NortySpock 3mo ago
        https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro#providers https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro#providers Look through the provider list for a company you are willing to do business with?
      - verdverm 3mo ago
        Fireworks.ai
        greyb 3mo ago
        I think I'd rather pay Chinese sales tax than work with Fireworks, but thank you for the suggestion.
      - anigbrowl 3mo ago
        Good grief, the sales tax is only 6% on a service that's already extremely affordable.
surgical_fire 3mo ago
Ohh I didn't know about it. Finally something to be excited about.

kamranjon 3mo ago

Where did you hear about the deepseek release? Would love to follow the same source.

blovescoffee 3mo ago
They emailed current paying users of the api (or at least that’s how I got updated).
benjiro29 3mo ago
> Where did you hear about the deepseek release? * Tons of gray testing going on for the last 2+ weeks (people at random getting the new v4 model for a while before its removed again). * It also DeepSeek their 3th birthday this Friday. * The its been almost 3 months from the v4 DeepSeek release, and the model everybody have been using, was not post-trained. That is what they have been doing during this time. People trying out the new DSv4 via the web chat with quick game creation tests. People pulling out stuff like Stellaris clones etc. https://cct124.github.io/HORIZON6_DEMO/ https://cct124.github.io/HORIZON6_DEMO/ https://www.showyourcode.app/zh/share/pmpwkamrnai2ue https://www.showyourcode.app/zh/share/pmpwkamrnai2ue The Battlefront like game is impressive. Sure, the soldiers are backwards and the graphics are still kind of basic. But the entire movement system (run/walk/crouch/jump), gun mechanics, grenades, capture points, AI fighting / capturing back, etc ... Ended up playing it way too darn long lol The text is in mandarin but its not too hard to figure out the menu. Sniper is OP ;) The Horizon 6 game has everywhere mesh colliders, shows when you off track dirt being kicked up, etc ... In general, both example are very well polished minus the reverse soldiers issue. And the price is supposed to stay the same (beyond the doubling during Chinese workhours), because everybody got that update.

bayesianbot 3mo ago

That is exciting! I don't understand how DeepSeek can be so cheap with their cache pricing - ~0.003 usd / 1Mtok. 100x less than Kimi K3, or similar numbers against pretty much any other decently sized model to my knowledge. I've been using it whenever possible as even longer agent sessions cost few cents.

hack1312 3mo ago
What provider are you using?
- bayesianbot 3mo ago
  DeepSeek's own API
  - greyb 3mo ago
    Any way to avoid China sales tax or is that just the cost of doing business?
    - NortySpock 3mo ago
      https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro#providers https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro#providers Look through the provider list for a company you are willing to do business with?
    - verdverm 3mo ago
      Fireworks.ai
      - greyb 3mo ago
        I think I'd rather pay Chinese sales tax than work with Fireworks, but thank you for the suggestion.
    - anigbrowl 3mo ago
      Good grief, the sales tax is only 6% on a service that's already extremely affordable.

surgical_fire 3mo ago

Ohh I didn't know about it. Finally something to be excited about.