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> That's total bullshit. Global music revenue fell by 50% because of piracy[1]. The article you linked does not provide any source and / or a methodology for h

by bean469 3mo ago

> That's total bullshit. Global music revenue fell by 50% because of piracy[1]. The article you linked does not provide any source and / or a methodology for how this was calculated and attributed specifically to piracy

Diogenesian 3mo ago
The article is mostly an interview with a journalist who wrote a book about Napster. The claim comes from his book. That's the source. I have not read the book. If you have concerns about the methodology you should read it yourself.
- bean469 3mo ago
  Since the explanation for the claim is essentially pay-walled behind the book, I will just choose to ignore it
  - kyboren 3mo ago
    "People got used to free shit and stopped paying as much." "Your claim is poorly supported." "Well it came from a book. Check it out if you're interested." "What? It's not free? Hell no I won't pay!"
    - lamonade 3mo ago
      (anecdotally) proving their point that pay walling something doesn't mean people will pay for it. Buying the book would have been hypocritical.
      - jake200 3mo ago
        This whole thread does have me questioning my understanding of cited sources behind paywalls. A contrived example I have in my head "My friend has more definitive proof in HIS book that <claim>, it only costs $1 trillion. Go read it yourself." For this particular thread its a bit disingenuous, but in a general case how does one go about understanding / disproving arguments made like this?
        bean469 3mo ago
        You decide whether or not the benefits from you obtaining the information outweigh the cost of obtaining the information. Or you convince Elon Musk to buy the book and leak the EPUB on twitter
    - bean469 3mo ago
      > "Well it came from a book. Check it out if you're interested." > "What? It's not free? Hell no I won't pay!" I am also sceptical that my burning questions will be answered in the book, thus I choose to not buy it. Also, the Goodreads reviews don't look too good
- albedoa 3mo ago
  It's unfathomably weird of you to frame an article as a source for your claim and then wait for someone to point out that the article does not support your claim before admitting that the source is actually a book that you haven't read.

by bean469 3mo ago

Diogenesian 3mo ago

The article is mostly an interview with a journalist who wrote a book about Napster. The claim comes from his book. That's the source. I have not read the book. If you have concerns about the methodology you should read it yourself.

bean469 3mo ago
Since the explanation for the claim is essentially pay-walled behind the book, I will just choose to ignore it
- kyboren 3mo ago
  "People got used to free shit and stopped paying as much." "Your claim is poorly supported." "Well it came from a book. Check it out if you're interested." "What? It's not free? Hell no I won't pay!"
  - lamonade 3mo ago
    (anecdotally) proving their point that pay walling something doesn't mean people will pay for it. Buying the book would have been hypocritical.
    - jake200 3mo ago
      This whole thread does have me questioning my understanding of cited sources behind paywalls. A contrived example I have in my head "My friend has more definitive proof in HIS book that <claim>, it only costs $1 trillion. Go read it yourself." For this particular thread its a bit disingenuous, but in a general case how does one go about understanding / disproving arguments made like this?
      - bean469 3mo ago
        You decide whether or not the benefits from you obtaining the information outweigh the cost of obtaining the information. Or you convince Elon Musk to buy the book and leak the EPUB on twitter
  - bean469 3mo ago
    > "Well it came from a book. Check it out if you're interested." > "What? It's not free? Hell no I won't pay!" I am also sceptical that my burning questions will be answered in the book, thus I choose to not buy it. Also, the Goodreads reviews don't look too good
albedoa 3mo ago
It's unfathomably weird of you to frame an article as a source for your claim and then wait for someone to point out that the article does not support your claim before admitting that the source is actually a book that you haven't read.