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Nitpick: those are (sharp) edges, not corners. Maybe the next generation of MacBooks will also actually have exactly 90° non-rounded corners? I guess that's the
by rob74 3mo ago
Nitpick: those are (sharp) edges, not corners. Maybe the next generation of MacBooks will also actually have exactly 90° non-rounded corners? I guess that's the next logical step...
Also, TIL that Bosch also makes files. I was under the impression that they only made powertools (or electronic measuring devices, or other things with a battery or power cord).
- Cthulhu_ 3mo agoTheir main bread and butter is components for cars and ebikes, their (power) tools / DIY stuff is like 22% of their business. Or so I learned just now.
- dijit 3mo agoas an aside, I have a shimano e-bike and a bosch one, and the bosch one is leagues superior. Which feels weird when you consider the pedigree of shimano, but it makes sense when you think what kind of internals an ebike motor would need.. I guess.
- fhub 3mo agoI have two Bosch powered e-bikes (gazelle Modeo and Turn GSD) and one DJI Avinox (Amflow PL carbon) A few years between each bike and very different bikes. But Avinox feels like it has come from nowhere to be on par or superior to Bosch. The charging plug egonicis is 100x better too.
- lmm 3mo agoShimano is famously a company that people in about four seemingly random/unrelated fields/hobbies think of as a specialist brand in that hobby (e.g. fishing). (They are or at least were originally a bearings company, specialising in things that need to spin with very low friction, and all their seemingly unrelated businesses started from that)
- serf 3mo agoI don't know about the other industries, but within old cycling circles they're also just seen as the group that was first to make good counterfeit goods that were actually high enough quality to use, and their entrance to the market was aided by the fact that existing players, campagnolo and schwinn mostly, were producing junk from junk proprietary alloys in order to compete with 'overseas' components at truly exorbitant costs. that was 40-50 years ago, so who cares, but Shimano is truly interesting for cultivating so many different opinions.
- mlrtime 3mo agoBosch also makes the appliances that a lot of people know that aren't branded Bosch.
- rob74 3mo agoActually it's a little bit more complicated: the appliances are made by a company called BSH (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSH_Hausger%C3%A4te https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSH_Hausger%C3%A4te) which was originally (since 1967!) a joint venture between Siemens and Bosch, but Siemens withdrew from it in 2014, and since then it's a fully owned subsidiary of Bosch (but still uses the Siemens brand as well as some other brands such as Gaggenau, Neff, Thermador etc.).
- stanac 3mo agoBosch owned Junkers since before WW2, at least heating appliances, I think airplanes where independent. They started rebranding Junkers to Bosch Thermotechnik ~20 years ago. I think they never sold heating appliances in UK under Junkers brand.
- mc32 3mo agoGood idea since depending how you pronounce junkers in English it could sound like an undependable appliance.
- rob74 3mo agoAnother big reason is probably the infamous Junkers Ju 87 dive bomber which also saw use during the Battle of Britain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_87 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_87). Or any of the other military Junkers aircraft built during WW2, of course: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers#Aircraft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers#Aircraft
- mc32 3mo agoMaybe… but less likely since few people remember plus we don’t have an issue with Mitsubishi and they built planes that gave us pain as well. What I’m saying is if Mitsubishi had been Mitshit instead they’d likely also feel pressure to change their name due to its sound rather than WWII infamy.
- eru 3mo agoOh, Bosch makes all kinds of things. Bosch's logo is something like a sparkplug (the thing used in internal combustion engines). To this day, the 'mobility' division is the biggest one. See https://www.bosch.com/stories/creation-of-the-bosch-logo/ https://www.bosch.com/stories/creation-of-the-bosch-logo/ Decades ago I actually had an offer to work for them as a research student working on optimising internal combustion engines.
- ce4 3mo agoIt resembles part of an electric motor, namely the windings (double t armature)
- MezzoDelCammin 3mo agonot a spark plug. They call it "armature in a circle", but that's somewhat generic. Bosch used to do the first magnetos / dynamos in the early 1900s motorbikes / cars. The principle is similar to this day - one rotating magnetic field within one static. You can do all kinds of shenanigans and combinations of permanent magnets / coils where it's either the electric current generating a magnetic field or the magnetic field generating an electric current. Depending whether You want the movement to generate electricity or the electricity to generate movement. In the first magnetos (the thing that uses the engine rotation in order to generate a current that then makes a spark in the spark plug) they used permanently magnetized exterior plating and a rotating winding. That's sort of what You see in the logo - two coil windings rotating in their housing.
- szszrk 3mo agoI find below article to be a cool explanation of that device, while actually showing shape Bosch uses in that logo. https://www.da7c.co.uk/technical_torque_articles/magneto_ignition_explained.html https://www.da7c.co.uk/technical_torque_articles/magneto_ign... But yeah, it's magneto ignition device, pre-sparkplug.
- boredpudding 3mo agoBosch is one of those companies that makes a lot of different things. I own powertools, kitchen appliances and car parts from them.
- B1FF_PSUVM 3mo agoAnd car engine control software. Bosch developed the "experimental" ECU software that VW used in the Dieselgate vehicles.
- isatty 3mo agoMost BMWs should be using Bosch ECUs (Di-Motronic).
- alper 3mo agoA classic German example of a zaibatsu.
- luipugs 3mo agoMy very first mobile was a Bosch. I had no idea they even made phones. I wanted a Nokia though, but I was able to get that later.
- maxbrt 3mo agoAh right, thanks for the hint. I try to be more precise in more wording, but English isn't my first language so comments like these are really useful.
- avadodin 3mo agoI assumed it was a reference to early Apple user interfaces. I believe their corners are already/still rounded, though. If we have to be precise, however, perhaps blades would be a more appropriate term to refer to their products' edges.
- maxbrt 3mo agoThat would have been a good reference, shame I didn't think of it. Blades definitely is the better term. This reminds me, the backplate of the Mac is also sharp as heck. I actually cut myself once when I was replacing a motherboard on an older Intel Mac. You don't really expect it to be this sharp when you lift it up.
- ctippett 3mo agoYou mentioned Bosch and I can't think of anywhere or anyone else who'd be interested in this little bit of trivia, so a random comment on a thread about filing the edges off a laptop seems like a fitting place to share it. Bosch dates their appliances using a thing called the Fertigungsdatum Number. The first two digits represent the year of manufacture, the second two are for the month. Except the year doesn't align with the actual year, you first have to add 20. Why 20? Well, Bosch first started using their internal dating system back in 1920 and appliances from that year started with the code "00". I had an oven that had a date of "7808", which means it was manufactured in August 1998 (it lasted almost 30 years before we finally had to replace it last month). In 2020 the system wound back around and started with "00" again.
- fransje26 3mo agoAnd the majority owner of Bosch is the Robert Bosch Stiftung (Robert Bosch foundation), which uses its dividends to fund projects in social sciences, public health and education.
- AndrewOMartin 3mo agoWhat a tragedy Robert Bosch Stiftung isn't receiving the dividends into his personal accounts, as this means he's not incentivized to keep innovating or to reduce prices.
- mlrtime 3mo agoAt least you didn't go full 2026 anti capitalism rant that Bosch shouldn't exist to donate revenue in the first place :)
- bluedevil2k 3mo agoHe’s also been dead for 80 years, which also removes his incentives.
- vitorfblima 3mo ago
- RealityVoid 3mo agoThey make many many many more things than just powertools. They have ebike motors, home appliances, industrial machinery, chips (they have a very good division for MEMS as far as I can tell, they make high quality IMU's, they are super popular for airbag usage), protocols (the CAN bus is BOSCH IP and you pay 1 cent royalty I think for each MCU's with CAN on them), automotive components.
- ct0 3mo agoI'm waiting for a Bosch dishwasher to be delivered today. Supposedly it's one of the best.
- unangst 3mo agoOur kitchen remodel included a Bosch dishwasher - it’s silent and always clean. Glad we made the splurge! Enjoy!
- tristor 3mo agoI hope you have a good experience with it. I had a Bosch dishwasher in my old house for some time until a failure, and it was so absurdly quiet that the little light it projects on the floor when running was truly valuable. It cleaned well and was all around pretty great until it gave up the ghost. Unfortunately when I went shopping last year for new appliances I found out that Bosch now requires you to use their app and connect your dishwasher to WiFi to do very basic things like use Eco Mode. One assertion I will stand by to my grave is that a dishwasher has no fucking business being connected to the Internet. I opted instead for GE Cafe / Profile appliance everywhere, which are fully usable without the app. None of my appliances have ever or will ever be connected to any network. The GE Cafe dishwasher also has a built in grinder/disposal unit which helps it deal with heavily soiled dishes much better as well as a bonus, and a fully stainless tub. Best of luck with your new dishwasher, the Bosch units are legitimately very quiet and powerful for cleaning (I believe they're still the quietest by at least 2db on the market, and every 3db is a doubling of sound power and intensity since its a logarithmic scale).
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- ssl-3 3mo agoWith something like 400,000 employees and 400 locations, Bosch has fingers in all kinds of markets. They invented the O2 sensor that lead to electronic fuel injected engines being awesome, and they still produce huge numbers of OE automotive engine management systems. They've got their self-branded tools, but when you buy a Dremel widget or a Diablo saw blade, you're also buying Bosch. I used to get home aquarium equipment that was made by Bosch. I've owned a (rather high-end, for the time) aftermarket car stereo that was a product of Bosch. The Bosch dishwasher I had was a skookum choocher despite being relatively inexpensive and near the bottom of their line. They make industrial automation hardware and sell plant engineering services. They build and run factories that manufacture semiconductors. I'm only scratching the surface here. Chances are excellent that you've got stuff related to Bosch all around you, wherever you go.
- sgirard 3mo agoI am not familiar with "skookum choocher". Is that a technical term? Based on the context it must be a good thing.
- ssl-3 3mo agoIt's jargon. A choocher is a thing that chooches; it's a machine that accomplishes things. Like a steam locomotive, chooching along and doing real work as it goes. Skookum is a term borrowed from Chinook that means things like strong, brave, or excellent. When an object is skookum, it is resoundingly well-made, robust, or reliable. Some things are more skookum than others, while some aren't skookum at all. A skookum choocher is a well-made machine that does a great job of doing stuff.
- singleshot_ 3mo agoKind of seems rude not to just direct GP to AvE, no?
- ssl-3 3mo agoYou mean the guy that fostered some of the best online communities that were full of people who do awesome things with a world of mechanical things at an advance level, and getting along great? The one who then took that amazing spectacle and turned the participants all against eachother? No. I don't think that their disinclusion in my comment is particularly rude.
- tamimio 3mo agoIt’s not nitpicking, I kept looking at the corners trying to see what was changed, back and forth for few seconds before I realized it was the edges!
- tomkarho 3mo ago> Maybe the next generation of MacBooks will also actually have exactly 90° non-rounded corners? Depends who owns the patent for that.