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So what about the existing AT protocol modems use?

wmf 2mo ago
No one cares.
Brian_K_White 2mo ago
I don't remember ever hearing that called AT proto or AT protocol, just AT commands or AT commandset etc. Even though I'm that old, even I don't care even if it was anyway. ...as long as the reason is what it looks like. Rather have Bluesky claim it for the purpose of having the officially recognized legal authority to grant usage to everyone else, than have a rando douche company think they can claim it to extort or simply inhibit everyone else.
ReptileMan 2mo ago
They use AT command set, not protocol.
- account42 2mo ago
  ... which is a protocol, thus pre-existing colloquial use of "AT protocol" that makes this trademark questionable.
  - deleted 2mo ago
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  - kube-system 2mo ago
    The mere "pre-existing use" of a word or phrase does not disqualify a trademark. Maybe you're thinking of prior art in a trademark? Or trademark genericization? But neither would apply here.
  - wat10000 2mo ago
    Is this a real thing? I don't think I've ever heard "AT protocol" before Bluesky. My first modem was 300 baud, so I wasn't totally out of the loop on this. DDG finds four hits for the phrase before 2020 used to describe the Hayes command set.
    - steveklabnik 2mo ago
      It is an incredibly common comment to be made on posts about atproto, so there certainly are a lot of people here for whom it was a thing.
      - wat10000 2mo ago
        I did a search and there are like three such comments in the past year, including this one.
        steveklabnik 2mo ago
        Depending on how you search specifically, you may or may not get all of them. For example, if you searched for "at protocol" specifically, you wouldn't get comments that are like "I thought we were talking about the old modem protocol!" and similar. Anyway I don't think that it means that atproto was misnamed or anything, just that this thread isn't the only time people have brought this up.
- icedchai 2mo ago
  I've heard it referred to as "AT command protocol." I googled it myself and this terminology is common enough.
bux93 2mo ago
That's the Hayes command set[1]. Hayes was a registered trademark up until 2022[2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_AT_command_set https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_AT_command_set [2] https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/73319703 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/73319703
ray_v 2mo ago
I had to shake my head for a moment as I was instantly transported back to 1998 with that comment lol
- ndiddy 2mo ago
  Anyone who's worked with cell modems knows that AT commands are very much still a thing, see here for example: https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/127000_127099/127007/17.06.00_60/ts_127007v170600p.pdf https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/127000_127099/127007/17...

wmf 2mo ago

No one cares.

I don't remember ever hearing that called AT proto or AT protocol, just AT commands or AT commandset etc. Even though I'm that old, even I don't care even if it was anyway. ...as long as the reason is what it looks like. Rather have Bluesky claim it for the purpose of having the officially recognized legal authority to grant usage to everyone else, than have a rando douche company think they can claim it to extort or simply inhibit everyone else.

ReptileMan 2mo ago

They use AT command set, not protocol.

account42 2mo ago
... which is a protocol, thus pre-existing colloquial use of "AT protocol" that makes this trademark questionable.
- deleted 2mo ago
  [deleted]
- kube-system 2mo ago
  The mere "pre-existing use" of a word or phrase does not disqualify a trademark. Maybe you're thinking of prior art in a trademark? Or trademark genericization? But neither would apply here.
- wat10000 2mo ago
  Is this a real thing? I don't think I've ever heard "AT protocol" before Bluesky. My first modem was 300 baud, so I wasn't totally out of the loop on this. DDG finds four hits for the phrase before 2020 used to describe the Hayes command set.
  - steveklabnik 2mo ago
    It is an incredibly common comment to be made on posts about atproto, so there certainly are a lot of people here for whom it was a thing.
    - wat10000 2mo ago
      I did a search and there are like three such comments in the past year, including this one.
      - steveklabnik 2mo ago
        Depending on how you search specifically, you may or may not get all of them. For example, if you searched for "at protocol" specifically, you wouldn't get comments that are like "I thought we were talking about the old modem protocol!" and similar. Anyway I don't think that it means that atproto was misnamed or anything, just that this thread isn't the only time people have brought this up.
icedchai 2mo ago
I've heard it referred to as "AT command protocol." I googled it myself and this terminology is common enough.

bux93 2mo ago

That's the Hayes command set[1]. Hayes was a registered trademark up until 2022[2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_AT_command_set https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_AT_command_set [2] https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/73319703 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/73319703

ray_v 2mo ago

I had to shake my head for a moment as I was instantly transported back to 1998 with that comment lol

ndiddy 2mo ago
Anyone who's worked with cell modems knows that AT commands are very much still a thing, see here for example: https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/127000_127099/127007/17.06.00_60/ts_127007v170600p.pdf https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/127000_127099/127007/17...