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What does that mean? I intuit that your program has bugs, therefore it has bugs? I intuit that there is an alien race living on Mars that is able to disguise it
by rohern 14y ago
What does that mean? I intuit that your program has bugs, therefore it has bugs? I intuit that there is an alien race living on Mars that is able to disguise itself as red rocks?
I do not see how intuition gives you anything other than -- maybe, and only maybe -- a smaller set of hypotheses to test scientifically.
- mattgreenrocks 14y agoYour inability to fit it into your belief system is not my problem.
- rohern 14y agoIf that is the strongest argument you can make, I think you've said all that needs to be said about intuition.
- mattgreenrocks 14y agoHehe, I'm not trying to convince you. I suppose I shouldn't be posting, then. Really, I'm not certain you would be convinced even if I did a better job, though. All I'm really looking for is less of a skeptical "explain it to me in terms of science" viewpoint, and more of a "huh, interesting" response. I've never seen someone even try to work with me when discussing these things. It's always shut down so they can claim their Internet points. Not intellectually engaging in the slightest.
- derleth 14y agoThis purely dismissive attitude is why philosophers are mocked and ignored.
- socialist_coder 14y agoPeople who believe in science don't want to argue with someone who believes in something based on faith? Huh, interesting.
- inavat 14y agoDo you really have nothing to offer about how intuition is useful or legitimate as a "way of knowing"? You want to just say the word "intuition" and have us respond, "huh, interesting"? Talk about intellectually engaging.
- rohern 14y agoYou just wrote > Your inability to fit it into your belief system is not my problem. and > I'm not trying to convince you. And now you are complaining that people fail to engage with you meaningfully. You are drowning in a pool you filled yourself.
- georgeorwell 14y agoMy intuition says you have angry feelings.
- derleth 14y ago> My intuition says you have angry feelings. This is just the kind of dismissive attitude that makes philosophers unpopular.
- georgeorwell 14y agoI was answering honestly. I receive strong cues from my intuition about other people's feelings.
- derleth 14y ago> I receive strong cues from my intuition about other people's feelings. Those are your mirror neurons, I think. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/mirror-neurons.html http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/mirror-neurons.html Or maybe not. We'll find out using science.
- georgeorwell 14y agoIn the midst of beating so mercilessly on that drum, you're missing the more interesting question being asked here: will science ever include emotions and intuition (and other neurologically explainable phenomena such as dreams) as a means to collect valid and objectively true experimental data? For the longest time we've had only our five primary senses, with an overwhelming focus on our sense of sight.
- rohern 14y agoIf you can give an example of how such data can be used, you could make a case for this, but putting "emotions" and "intuition" in the same sentence as "valid and objectively true...data" is, I think, all the answer you need. If you are studying emotions, then of course reports of emotional responses are useful data. If you are studying intuition (as has been done in great detail in studies of how chess players make decisions), then intuition is useful data. It is not clear, at least to me, how an astronomer looking at Saturn and saying "Gee, how pretty" is going to lead him to a better measurement of Saturn's gravity. It is not a matter of what big brother Science wants. It is a matter of what is useful in answering the question being asked. Draw a line between beauty and gravity measurements and show a reliable connection and you have done all you need to do to convince people to apply this data.