It makes me very happy to hear that there are parts of the world where my anecdotal experiences are not representative of the real statistics. Note, I expresse

It makes me very happy to hear that there are parts of the world where my anecdotal experiences are not representative of the real statistics. Note, I expressed that among technologically inclined ethivegs there was universal acceptance of the idea among those that I introduced it to, meaning that their hearts and minds still work...they just aren't hackers or engineers that see a problem and then try to fix it using whatever technology possible, extant or not :D. RE luddites: there is a vast number of luddite ethivegs that reject any technology that they didn't create themselves - including metal, medicines, making paper, and etc. It can be a brutal life and I imagine it is only possible in some areas of the world. They also acknowledge that they only survive due to law enforcement protecting them with armaments that they do not allow themselves to use. The real crazies do all that and then refuse to use domesticated animals! Fruitarianism, eat your heart out :D. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruitarianism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruitarianism