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First, why audit it when the agent can build a new one. Second, can you guarantee that an AI company can’t use its AI to hide malicious code from AI audits. Wh

by croes 3mo ago

First, why audit it when the agent can build a new one. Second, can you guarantee that an AI company can’t use its AI to hide malicious code from AI audits. Who if not an AI company could have such an expertise? I don’t trust a company that pollutes the air of other people with illegal gas turbines because it shows the value their profit over people‘s health

Petersipoi 3mo ago
Nothing you said here can't be applied to literally any company on earth. And nothing you said here is even a new concern.
- croes 3mo ago
  I doubt that every company could hide malicious code so well that AI can’t find it. And who said it need to be new concerns? Are the old ones resolved and are they not enough?
- customguy 3mo ago
  Why would it need to be "new"? What does that even mean? It's relevant, it applies here, that's more than enough. And it would be brought up with any company if they dropped 1.3 LOC directly after nothing but a "promise" to delete data they took.
avaer 3mo ago
> Second, can you guarantee that an AI company can’t use its AI to hide malicious code from AI audits. Who if not an AI company could have such an expertise? Any evidence for this conspiracy theory? It's not on anyone to disprove this claim. > it shows the value their profit over people‘s health Companies are chartered to make their shareholders value. To a first approximation, it's illegal for a company to "fuckit, we care about people's health" unless this is what the shareholders voted for (as opposed to making their shares valuable). You can argue this is bad, but it isn't about XAI, it applies to every company you've heard of.
- croes 3mo ago
  > Any evidence for this conspiracy theory? It's not on anyone to disprove this claim. If you have a record it’s on you to justify why I should trust you > unless this is what the shareholders voted for You do realize that for SpaceX the Musk has 85% of the voting power? https://www.tradingkey.com/analysis/stocks/us-stocks/261919584-elonmusk-spacex-ipo-tradingkey https://www.tradingkey.com/analysis/stocks/us-stocks/2619195... And not every company I ever heard of installed gas turbines without permission that pollute the air for citizens. Every company could act in bad faith but only domestic actually do and SpaceX is one of them. Maybe you should try to explain those residents whose air is polluted that other companies are bad too. I‘m sure that relieves them.

by croes 3mo ago

Petersipoi 3mo ago

Nothing you said here can't be applied to literally any company on earth. And nothing you said here is even a new concern.

croes 3mo ago
I doubt that every company could hide malicious code so well that AI can’t find it. And who said it need to be new concerns? Are the old ones resolved and are they not enough?
customguy 3mo ago
Why would it need to be "new"? What does that even mean? It's relevant, it applies here, that's more than enough. And it would be brought up with any company if they dropped 1.3 LOC directly after nothing but a "promise" to delete data they took.

avaer 3mo ago

> Second, can you guarantee that an AI company can’t use its AI to hide malicious code from AI audits. Who if not an AI company could have such an expertise? Any evidence for this conspiracy theory? It's not on anyone to disprove this claim. > it shows the value their profit over people‘s health Companies are chartered to make their shareholders value. To a first approximation, it's illegal for a company to "fuckit, we care about people's health" unless this is what the shareholders voted for (as opposed to making their shares valuable). You can argue this is bad, but it isn't about XAI, it applies to every company you've heard of.

croes 3mo ago
> Any evidence for this conspiracy theory? It's not on anyone to disprove this claim. If you have a record it’s on you to justify why I should trust you > unless this is what the shareholders voted for You do realize that for SpaceX the Musk has 85% of the voting power? https://www.tradingkey.com/analysis/stocks/us-stocks/261919584-elonmusk-spacex-ipo-tradingkey https://www.tradingkey.com/analysis/stocks/us-stocks/2619195... And not every company I ever heard of installed gas turbines without permission that pollute the air for citizens. Every company could act in bad faith but only domestic actually do and SpaceX is one of them. Maybe you should try to explain those residents whose air is polluted that other companies are bad too. I‘m sure that relieves them.