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Do you have any examples to illustrate these extraordinary claims?
by jamiequint 3mo ago
Do you have any examples to illustrate these extraordinary claims?
- agartner 3mo agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48892468 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48892468
- jamiequint 3mo agoread the top comment
- mplewis 3mo agoread any of your other replies
- ryandrake 3mo agoOP seems to be asking for examples with an intent to dismiss and downplay each of them, and not to actually read into them and challenge his existing beliefs about X/Grok/Musk.
- jamiequint 3mo agoLOL, pot meet kettle for real.
- ryandrake 3mo agoOpen to changing my mind. I would be interested in reading positive, uplifting news about xAI/Grok/Musk that demonstrated a repeated pattern of ethical, careful, compassionate, attentive, and/or responsible business and engineering practices.
- dimgl 3mo agoI agree about OP. However after looking at all of these articles, these all seem like instances of users misusing the product. The product happens to reply on social media, so media publications immediately capitalized on this. Seems less like malicious intent from xAI's part and more like a product with young and/or insufficient moderation controls. Just today I saw an article where xAI is suing a creator for creating illegal content. https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/musks-xai-sues-grok-user-over-sexualized-deepfakes-2026-07-15/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/musks-xai-sues-grok...
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- jdiff 3mo agohttps://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/05/xais-grok-suddenly-cant-stop-bringing-up-white-genocide-in-south-africa/ https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/05/xais-grok-suddenly-cant-s...
- jamiequint 3mo agohttps://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/google-making-changes-gemini-ai-portrayed-people-color-inaccurately-rcna140007 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/google-making-changes...
- jdiff 3mo agoStarkly different. One was a well meaning attempt to squash model bias gone wrong, the other is a deliberately inserted bias. Even ignoring all that, whataboutism is not persuasive.
- jamiequint 3mo agoThe reality is both are likely well meaning attempts to squash model bias gone wrong. Since you happen to align with the politics of one more than the other, you are having trouble being intellectually honest about your own biases.
- jdiff 3mo agoIn no way are you being intellectually honest if you think that hamfisted system prompt push to prod manipulation was an attempt to squash bias. And again, whataboutism doesn't make xAI better because others are doing bad, too. You asked for evidence of xAI untrustworthiness and received it.
- jamiequint 3mo agoWhat is worse a "hamfisted system prompt push to prod" or a system and organization built to enforce systematic bias in the name of anti-bias?
- AshamedBadger56 3mo agohttps://apnews.com/article/grok-ai-elon-musk-xai-f3f8195a17698aefc517e43da973f2ea https://apnews.com/article/grok-ai-elon-musk-xai-f3f8195a176... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/01/grok-assumes-users-seeking-images-of-underage-girls-have-good-intent/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/01/grok-assumes-use... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/07/grok-praises-hitler-gives-credit-to-musk-for-removing-woke-filters/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/07/grok-praises-hit... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/03/elon-musks-xai-sued-for-turning-three-girls-real-photos-into-ai-csam/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/03/elon-musks-xai-s... https://apnews.com/article/grok-4-elon-musk-xai-colossus-14d575fb490c2b679ed3111a1c83f857 https://apnews.com/article/grok-4-elon-musk-xai-colossus-14d... https://apnews.com/article/grok-ai-south-africa-64ce5f240061ca0b88d5af4c424e1f3b https://apnews.com/article/grok-ai-south-africa-64ce5f240061... https://apnews.com/article/france-ai-musk-grok-holocaust-e8c952c5d878226aa917d7a65836ed88 https://apnews.com/article/france-ai-musk-grok-holocaust-e8c...
- SimianSci 3mo agoThe many controversies are not hard to find as the children to your comment will show. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/22/technology/grok-x-ai-elon-musk-deepfakes.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/22/technology/grok-x-ai-elon...
- jamiequint 3mo agoThey had a bug in their model that they fixed within days is evidence they are "untrustworthy"?
- SimianSci 3mo agoYou didnt even address my link, this is why you are being called out as a bad-faith actor.
- ben_w 3mo agoThey put it behind a paywall and didn't fix it, according to more recent lawsuits than that article. Also, failed to correctly notify authorities even when they eventually notified them at all. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.465940/gov.uscourts.cand.465940.26.0.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.46...
- munk-a 3mo agoElon initially sold xAI as having a spicy mode and being politically incorrect. It was only deemed a bug when it became a liability - you can't simply rewrite history and expect it to go unnoticed.
- maxloh 3mo agoWhy is that even a problem? If no images are released on the internet (and users consume them privately), no one is harmed in the process. Blocking AI from generating sexualized images because people could publish deepfakes is no different than banning alcohol because of drunk driving. Tools are neutral. Blame the people who misuse the tools and hurt others.
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- ryandrake 3mo agohttps://boingboing.net/2026/01/06/x-faces-global-investigations-as-grok-generates-deepfake-porn-of-women-and-minors.html https://boingboing.net/2026/01/06/x-faces-global-investigati... https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/grok-sexualized-image-xai-elon-musk-women-1235501436/ https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/grok-s...