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Its not as good as GLM 5.2 for agentic workflows while also being bigger. Competition is going to be ruthless because the super low cost to switching. There is
by verdverm 4mo ago
Its not as good as GLM 5.2 for agentic workflows while also being bigger. Competition is going to be ruthless because the super low cost to switching.
There is also AllenAi in the US, but they have yet to produce a model at this scale. Thankfully, new contenders can come out of nowhere and do well, as long as they can produce a competitive model.
- InsideOutSanta 4mo ago> Its not as good as GLM 5.2 for agentic workflows while also being bigger GLM 5.2 underwent extensive post-training and iteration since its original release to reach its current state. This seems like an extremely strong model for a first release, with a lot of potential for improvement, just like DS4. Sometimes I wish Meta had stuck with Llama 4 a bit longer to see how much further it could be pushed.
- verdverm 4mo agoThis is a great point
- hirako2000 4mo agoLlama 4 wasn't deemed a success, and Meta pivoted away as its now former head of AI couldn't demonstrate, nor even showed interest in, business profit. They overspent on llama 3 anyway so money ran dry, LeCun is good at running research, but budgets didn't stretch. Meta isn't investing in frontier big models anymore.
- nl 4mo ago> Meta isn't investing in frontier big models anymore Yes they are. Meta Muse is their attempt. It's below frontier performance at the moment but they are spending on getting there.
- nl 4mo agoLlama 4 was a bad architecture. Meta Spark is moderately promising but of course closed source.
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