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> A bit silly Mm hmm I mean the planets would fly off orbit ...such thoughtless justification is not really disproving comparison to "anything goes" discours

> A bit silly Mm hmm I mean the planets would fly off orbit ...such thoughtless justification is not really disproving comparison to "anything goes" discourse of other platforms with a nonsense appeal to empty normalization 100% designed to offload an empty bag onto retail investors SpaceX is propped up entirely by government subsidy It has no real sustainable business unlike SK Hynix, very much like OAI and Anthropic What's silly is propping up ephemeral companies that burn resources and produce nothing

JumpCrisscross 3mo ago
> offload an empty bag onto retail investors This was a popular meme on Twitter and Reddit and YouTube, granted. The math doesn’t make sense with an index like the Nasdaq 100. But I’ll admit it’s a good story. > SpaceX is propped up entirely by government subsidy This is also true of every defence contractor.
- yobutdude 3mo ago
  Colonies on Mars is a good story Super intelligence is a good story These companies are built on little more than "a good story" for politicians to sell to voters ..."i voted in Congress for that!" You're arguing semantics Economic math is being leveraged against innumerates as euphemism and obfuscation of same old avarice and political corruption. Biology is self selecting. There's no using rhetoric to wave off the ground truth is just a minority of the total population ensuring their own lived experience is put above everyone else's
  - JumpCrisscross 3mo ago
    > a minority of the total population ensuring their own lived experience is put above everyone else's That’s a new use of that term!
    - yobutdude 3mo ago
      No it is not. Appeals to equality of condition have existed for centuries. Among them are that term used verbatim. Ignored the other points and redirected to the least salient. Will take it as acceptance you realized how silly your carrying water for people who don't know or care you exist is. Age of account makes it clear you need the social system to remain solvent as you're likely rich on paper. Nothing more.
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      - JumpCrisscross 3mo ago
        > Ignored the other points In this comment [1]? Seriously, what salient points were you trying to make? Nobody is arguing anything is fairly valued. That's your straw man. There's a bit ironically complaining about innumeracy in a series of comments with zero numbers. Then a general appeal to Twitter tropes around sheeple and whatnot. If anything, the quality of this comment thread sort of points to the quality of the argument for SpaceX being included in the Nasdaq 100 being corrupt. It's based on vibes and feels. Which is a good story–it's clearly convinced a bunch of people to watch another video, click on another ad. > Age of account makes it clear you need the social system to remain solvent as you're likely rich on paper. Nothing more ...genuine question, how are you connecting that observation to that conclusion? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48925695 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48925695
        yobutdude 3mo ago
        Back n forth with someone who used "a bit silly" as a justification. You set a low bar out the gate. I merely met you down there. Numbers don't make a difference. They can be shaped to any argument like English or German because they're picked by the biases of the author. You seem to live in a rhetoric derived neural hallucination and are completely detached from physical reality, meaningful thresholds for verification. Will stick to the skills I picked up studying applied physics and electrical engineering for checking hypothesis and formal verification. No interest continuing a conversation with a functional illiterate who cannot reason outside their native cultural bubble. To paraphrase Feynman, doesn't make much sense to get hung up on the syntax and their semantics.
s1artibartfast 3mo ago
How much of your money did they take? Are you one of those people that went all in on WallStreetbets? Who should be at the gambling commissioner that allows such things? Should people be made Wards of the state and finances placed in Trump's noble stewardship?
- JumpCrisscross 3mo ago
  I didn’t consider that angle—thanks. I don’t day trade and don’t think anyone should. Lots of folks do anyway, however, and then they predictably lose money. It should be similarly predictable that they’ll then get upset and lash out, sometimes in the correct direction, often not. (And the influencers pitching day trading and whatnot, lo and behold, are probably also selling the corruption of indices and why you should buy their crypto to not be a "simp" or whatnot.)
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  - s1artibartfast 3mo ago
    Mostly like I think they simply long for communal property ownership with a benevolent overseer that invests and distributes resources according to values that match their own. Therefore they are offended that private individuals can allocate as they choose, and make losing gambles on other private institutions. Some of these people were taught indexes are safe havens, and recoil at the idea they might not be safe as milk.
    - JumpCrisscross 3mo ago
      > they simply long for communal property ownership with a benevolent overseer I’m not impressed by the other account. But I respect your opinion. Why do you think they have convictions? (Versus waffling on memes.)
      - s1artibartfast 3mo ago

JumpCrisscross 3mo ago

> offload an empty bag onto retail investors This was a popular meme on Twitter and Reddit and YouTube, granted. The math doesn’t make sense with an index like the Nasdaq 100. But I’ll admit it’s a good story. > SpaceX is propped up entirely by government subsidy This is also true of every defence contractor.

yobutdude 3mo ago
Colonies on Mars is a good story Super intelligence is a good story These companies are built on little more than "a good story" for politicians to sell to voters ..."i voted in Congress for that!" You're arguing semantics Economic math is being leveraged against innumerates as euphemism and obfuscation of same old avarice and political corruption. Biology is self selecting. There's no using rhetoric to wave off the ground truth is just a minority of the total population ensuring their own lived experience is put above everyone else's
- JumpCrisscross 3mo ago
  > a minority of the total population ensuring their own lived experience is put above everyone else's That’s a new use of that term!
  - yobutdude 3mo ago
    No it is not. Appeals to equality of condition have existed for centuries. Among them are that term used verbatim. Ignored the other points and redirected to the least salient. Will take it as acceptance you realized how silly your carrying water for people who don't know or care you exist is. Age of account makes it clear you need the social system to remain solvent as you're likely rich on paper. Nothing more.
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    - JumpCrisscross 3mo ago
      > Ignored the other points In this comment [1]? Seriously, what salient points were you trying to make? Nobody is arguing anything is fairly valued. That's your straw man. There's a bit ironically complaining about innumeracy in a series of comments with zero numbers. Then a general appeal to Twitter tropes around sheeple and whatnot. If anything, the quality of this comment thread sort of points to the quality of the argument for SpaceX being included in the Nasdaq 100 being corrupt. It's based on vibes and feels. Which is a good story–it's clearly convinced a bunch of people to watch another video, click on another ad. > Age of account makes it clear you need the social system to remain solvent as you're likely rich on paper. Nothing more ...genuine question, how are you connecting that observation to that conclusion? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48925695 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48925695
      - yobutdude 3mo ago
        Back n forth with someone who used "a bit silly" as a justification. You set a low bar out the gate. I merely met you down there. Numbers don't make a difference. They can be shaped to any argument like English or German because they're picked by the biases of the author. You seem to live in a rhetoric derived neural hallucination and are completely detached from physical reality, meaningful thresholds for verification. Will stick to the skills I picked up studying applied physics and electrical engineering for checking hypothesis and formal verification. No interest continuing a conversation with a functional illiterate who cannot reason outside their native cultural bubble. To paraphrase Feynman, doesn't make much sense to get hung up on the syntax and their semantics.

s1artibartfast 3mo ago

How much of your money did they take? Are you one of those people that went all in on WallStreetbets? Who should be at the gambling commissioner that allows such things? Should people be made Wards of the state and finances placed in Trump's noble stewardship?

JumpCrisscross 3mo ago
I didn’t consider that angle—thanks. I don’t day trade and don’t think anyone should. Lots of folks do anyway, however, and then they predictably lose money. It should be similarly predictable that they’ll then get upset and lash out, sometimes in the correct direction, often not. (And the influencers pitching day trading and whatnot, lo and behold, are probably also selling the corruption of indices and why you should buy their crypto to not be a "simp" or whatnot.)
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- s1artibartfast 3mo ago
  Mostly like I think they simply long for communal property ownership with a benevolent overseer that invests and distributes resources according to values that match their own. Therefore they are offended that private individuals can allocate as they choose, and make losing gambles on other private institutions. Some of these people were taught indexes are safe havens, and recoil at the idea they might not be safe as milk.
  - JumpCrisscross 3mo ago
    > they simply long for communal property ownership with a benevolent overseer I’m not impressed by the other account. But I respect your opinion. Why do you think they have convictions? (Versus waffling on memes.)
    - s1artibartfast 3mo ago