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Nicotine is far more regulated and generally won’t lead you to pass out behind the wheel of a car or drown in a hot tub. You can’t even smoke in the vicinity of

Nicotine is far more regulated and generally won’t lead you to pass out behind the wheel of a car or drown in a hot tub. You can’t even smoke in the vicinity of many buildings, but kratom? It’s basically an unregulated opiod that anyone over 18 can get and use wherever, whenever, with little to no control over what’s actually in it because it’s not food, medicine, etc.

sigmoid10 3mo ago
So are most OTC drugs. Doesn't change the fact that you can get them everywhere. And long term nicotine use causes dependence similar to heroin.
- Forgeties79 3mo ago
  It doesn’t even compare man. I am pro legalization of drugs but it doesn’t mean they should be as unregulated as kratom currently is
  - pstuart 3mo ago
    Drug regulation should be very simple: 1. Purity, strength, and disclosure of ingredients. 2. Responsible advertising/promotion/distribution. I'm pro kratom but I find it abhorrent the way it's marketed and sold without any warnings or acknowledgements of addiction.
- ipaddr 3mo ago
  Not really but great talking point. The exact quote is it's as hard to quit smoking as heroin. But in reality getting off heroin cold turkey can kill you, where you need to be locked in room sweat it out. People quiting smoking still go to work but their mood is poor. Not the same at all.
switchbak 3mo ago
Also you can just walk in a farmer's field, pick a mushroom out of a cow patty and boom - you're high AF! Someone should regulate cow shit, there's little to no control over it!
- sanktanglia 3mo ago
  most states require farmers to put additives in their cow feed to specifically prevent those mushrooms, they are already actively regulated
  - switchbak 3mo ago
    Thank God, we can't just have people getting high for free.
  - AngryData 3mo ago
    Got a source for that? Ive never heard of that in my life and ive worked on multiple dairy and beef farms.
  - amanaplanacanal 3mo ago
    You just made that up, didn't you?
    - switchbak 3mo ago
      Supposedly it’s an urban (rural) legend going around for a long time. Good story, even if it’s not true.

sigmoid10 3mo ago

So are most OTC drugs. Doesn't change the fact that you can get them everywhere. And long term nicotine use causes dependence similar to heroin.

Forgeties79 3mo ago
It doesn’t even compare man. I am pro legalization of drugs but it doesn’t mean they should be as unregulated as kratom currently is
- pstuart 3mo ago
  Drug regulation should be very simple: 1. Purity, strength, and disclosure of ingredients. 2. Responsible advertising/promotion/distribution. I'm pro kratom but I find it abhorrent the way it's marketed and sold without any warnings or acknowledgements of addiction.
ipaddr 3mo ago
Not really but great talking point. The exact quote is it's as hard to quit smoking as heroin. But in reality getting off heroin cold turkey can kill you, where you need to be locked in room sweat it out. People quiting smoking still go to work but their mood is poor. Not the same at all.

switchbak 3mo ago

Also you can just walk in a farmer's field, pick a mushroom out of a cow patty and boom - you're high AF! Someone should regulate cow shit, there's little to no control over it!

sanktanglia 3mo ago
most states require farmers to put additives in their cow feed to specifically prevent those mushrooms, they are already actively regulated
- switchbak 3mo ago
  Thank God, we can't just have people getting high for free.
- AngryData 3mo ago
  Got a source for that? Ive never heard of that in my life and ive worked on multiple dairy and beef farms.
- amanaplanacanal 3mo ago
  You just made that up, didn't you?
  - switchbak 3mo ago
    Supposedly it’s an urban (rural) legend going around for a long time. Good story, even if it’s not true.