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You really managed to zoom in on the right issue here. Seems really weird to steer/configure/train a LLM/platform to literally close the session if you happen

You really managed to zoom in on the right issue here. Seems really weird to steer/configure/train a LLM/platform to literally close the session if you happen to use bad word too much, regardless if it's accurate or not. They don't get offended, they shouldn't pretend as such, and I should be able to tell it go fuck itself without it playing victim and closing the conversation.

hhh 3mo ago
Why would you disrespect your own tools?
- embedding-shape 3mo ago
  It's tools, who cares? I should be able to use a hammer, mistakenly hit my thumb with it, call it a bunch of names and maybe even throw it to the ground and stomp on it, and then be able to pick it up again, clean it and continue working with it. It's a thing, it shouldn't pretend to be a individual with feelings.
  - throw1234567891 3mo ago
    Yeah, but the hammer doesn’t generate hits based on an algorithm. You hold the hammer, if you hit yourself with it, why do you call it stupid? I bet you don’t call the hammer stupid when someone else hits you with it.
    - embedding-shape 3mo ago
      Have you never used tools, been hurt by how you used them, know you are responsible yet take out your pain on the tool, verbally or otherwise? Feels like I'm having a conversation with a robot who hasn't experienced emotions or the very least never used physical tools.
      - throw1234567891 3mo ago
        Must have been a long time ago.
      - hhh 3mo ago
        no, why would I get mad at an abnormally shaped rock
        embedding-shape 3mo ago
        Because you're human, you're irrational and you do stupid shit.
throw1234567891 3mo ago
Sounds like the new one was trained on senior engineer’s with ego’s, maybe even grey beard’s. Majority of the training data is low quality, so sounds like “yes, you’re right! It works! I commented out unit test’s and now all test’s pass!”, while the new one is a passive-aggressive “if you know better and you talk to me like that, fuck you do it yourself”, or simply turning around and walking away because they don’t need take the abuse anymore.

hhh 3mo ago

Why would you disrespect your own tools?

embedding-shape 3mo ago
It's tools, who cares? I should be able to use a hammer, mistakenly hit my thumb with it, call it a bunch of names and maybe even throw it to the ground and stomp on it, and then be able to pick it up again, clean it and continue working with it. It's a thing, it shouldn't pretend to be a individual with feelings.
- throw1234567891 3mo ago
  Yeah, but the hammer doesn’t generate hits based on an algorithm. You hold the hammer, if you hit yourself with it, why do you call it stupid? I bet you don’t call the hammer stupid when someone else hits you with it.
  - embedding-shape 3mo ago
    Have you never used tools, been hurt by how you used them, know you are responsible yet take out your pain on the tool, verbally or otherwise? Feels like I'm having a conversation with a robot who hasn't experienced emotions or the very least never used physical tools.
    - throw1234567891 3mo ago
      Must have been a long time ago.
    - hhh 3mo ago
      no, why would I get mad at an abnormally shaped rock
      - embedding-shape 3mo ago
        Because you're human, you're irrational and you do stupid shit.

throw1234567891 3mo ago

Sounds like the new one was trained on senior engineer’s with ego’s, maybe even grey beard’s. Majority of the training data is low quality, so sounds like “yes, you’re right! It works! I commented out unit test’s and now all test’s pass!”, while the new one is a passive-aggressive “if you know better and you talk to me like that, fuck you do it yourself”, or simply turning around and walking away because they don’t need take the abuse anymore.