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Here's an overview of the situation: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62ln7mzd5ro https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62ln7mzd5ro

inigyou 3mo ago
So people are getting arrested for tweeting they want to set fire to a hotel full of people? Seems good to me
ceejayoz 3mo ago
Are you sure that link's the one you meant to share? > The former childminder from Northampton, who is married to a Conservative councillor, had posted an abhorrent message on X, calling for people to "set fire" to hotels housing asylum seekers following the murder of three young girls at a dance class in Southport in July 2024. > Yet the fact both men were able to address a huge crowd in London is perhaps evidence that there is rather more leeway for free speech in this country than those likening the UK to a "tin pot dictatorship" suggest. Seems fine?
- philipallstar 3mo ago
  > Are you sure that link's the one you meant to share? Sorry, I'm confused by the question.
  - ceejayoz 3mo ago
    The link seems to make the opposite point you intended. Criminal threats with appropriate punishment, and regular old hateful speech is ongoing.
    - philipallstar 3mo ago
      The link is far broader than that, but even in this case: there was no threat. No more than a university lecturer tweeting that he wanted a white genocide.
      - ceejayoz 3mo ago
        I'm sorry, but if you think public calls to burn down occupied buildings during unrest (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_Kingdom_riots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_Kingdom_riots) aren't a threat, I'm not sure there's a discussion to be had here.
        marysol5 3mo ago
        "ISIS never threatened anybody, they just called for bombs to be set off"
    - marysol5 3mo ago
      The right love to play-down the woman who called for terrorist attacks on British streets as "just a tweet". Meanwhile there's been two arrests around two prominent right-wing politicians getting threats and celebration of death this week. And they're all silent again.

inigyou 3mo ago

So people are getting arrested for tweeting they want to set fire to a hotel full of people? Seems good to me

ceejayoz 3mo ago

Are you sure that link's the one you meant to share? > The former childminder from Northampton, who is married to a Conservative councillor, had posted an abhorrent message on X, calling for people to "set fire" to hotels housing asylum seekers following the murder of three young girls at a dance class in Southport in July 2024. > Yet the fact both men were able to address a huge crowd in London is perhaps evidence that there is rather more leeway for free speech in this country than those likening the UK to a "tin pot dictatorship" suggest. Seems fine?

philipallstar 3mo ago
> Are you sure that link's the one you meant to share? Sorry, I'm confused by the question.
- ceejayoz 3mo ago
  The link seems to make the opposite point you intended. Criminal threats with appropriate punishment, and regular old hateful speech is ongoing.
  - philipallstar 3mo ago
    The link is far broader than that, but even in this case: there was no threat. No more than a university lecturer tweeting that he wanted a white genocide.
    - ceejayoz 3mo ago
      I'm sorry, but if you think public calls to burn down occupied buildings during unrest (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_Kingdom_riots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_Kingdom_riots) aren't a threat, I'm not sure there's a discussion to be had here.
      - marysol5 3mo ago
        "ISIS never threatened anybody, they just called for bombs to be set off"
  - marysol5 3mo ago
    The right love to play-down the woman who called for terrorist attacks on British streets as "just a tweet". Meanwhile there's been two arrests around two prominent right-wing politicians getting threats and celebration of death this week. And they're all silent again.