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Training kids how to respond to school shootings is like training kids how to respond to dual engine failures on an airplane. It happens, it's just statistical

Training kids how to respond to school shootings is like training kids how to respond to dual engine failures on an airplane. It happens, it's just statistically so unlikely to ever happen to your kid, that the drill essentially serves as ideological propaganda reinforcing fear of the idea of the threat far above and beyond the statistical risk actually posed by the threat itself. And as a reminder, Europe sees more people die to heat than America sees people die to guns. https://fortune.com/2026/06/26/heat-death-europe-ac-american-gun-violence-climate-change-hot-summer/ https://fortune.com/2026/06/26/heat-death-europe-ac-american... Maybe your guild should figure out how to beat the PvE server before lecturing the players on the PvP server on how ridiculous you think our freedom is. Major skill issue, noob.

inigyou 3mo ago
School shootings in America are not statistically unlikely, they are a regular occurrence.
- anonym29 3mo ago
  The odds a child will be killed by an armed assailant at a school in the USA are about 1 in 5 million per year, and if you narrow down to mass shootings at schools, that drops to about 1 in 10 million. Between 2013 and 2022, a total of 77 students in grades K-12 have been killed in 11 school mass shootings, in a country with 50 million school children. A child in America is about 500-600x more likely to die in a car accident than a school shooting. A child in America is about 90-120x more likely to die from a pedestrian fatality than a school shooting. A child in America is 70-90x more likely to die from choking than a school shooting. A child in America is 50-60x more likely to die from drowning than a school shooting. A child in America is 40-55x more likely to die in a fire or from smoke than a school shooting. A child in America is 10-15x more likely to die in a bicycle accident not involving a motor vehicle than from a school shooting. Comparable risks to dying in a school shooting include a fatal sting from a bee or wasp, (about twice a likely), or dying from being struck by lightning (about half as likely). School shootings, while tragic, do not pose nearly as much of a statistical threat as you think they do, even if they still pose more than they ought to.
  - rjrjrjrj 3mo ago
    A child in America is more likely to die than a child in Europe, Canada, Aus, NZ, ...
    - anonym29 3mo ago
      Sure, but almost never from a school shooting - usually from a car accident. That is one place where I'll be the first to acknowledge America isn't doing great on with regards to child safety.
      - rjrjrjrj 3mo ago
        Often from a gun
        anonym29 3mo ago
        Extremely rarely from a gun. And even when it is from a gun, it's not your kid dying from a gun, it's hundreds to thousands of "kids" (young teenagers) in places like Detroit and Chicago who have chosen an early career in armed carjacking and gang warfare, that skew the statistics for the entire nation. If you remove shootings committed by African Americans (which are overwhelmingly against other African Americans), America's gun violence rate per capita drops below that of Canada, below the Czech Republic, close to the EU average. See: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7242a4.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7242a4.htm Gun violence is something that the vast majority of Americans will never personally witness or experience, and will never even know anyone who has personally witnessed or experienced it.
        rjrjrjrj 3mo ago
        “in 2020, firearm-related injuries became the leading cause of death in that age group” [1-19] https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761
        3mo ago
- fragmede 3mo ago
  It is statistically likely that one will happen somewhere in the country , but it is also statically unlikely that it will happen at the one you are at.
tempfile 3mo ago
That article does not even normalise for population, so I have little faith in their ability to correct for less obvious mistakes.
Arodex 3mo ago
As a reminder, the heat killing Europeans right now is caused by America pumping ungodly amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere with virility-signalling cars and air conditioning set to 60 fahrenheit everywhere. You are literally mocking Europeans for being killed by your waste.
- inigyou 3mo ago
  Right now? Or a few weeks ago? Fewer weeks ago, America suffered the same heat wave but worse, so they got karma.
- anonym29 3mo ago
  CO2 emissions have been consistently declining in both the USA and Europe for over 2 decades now. The bulk of the CO2 increase over that time period comes from China and India. Americans also invented the solar photovoltaic panel. You're welcome. Also, since we're playing this game right now, I'd be remiss to not remind you that American individuals do over an order of magnitude more charitable giving than the entire EU combined, on a raw dollar basis. Speaking of giving - since 2014, the EU has purchased approximate €700-€900 billion worth of oil and natural gas alone from Russia (total EU imports from Russia exceed €1T in that time period), while offering less than €300 billion in support to Ukraine. The EU is responsible for funding Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and has given more than twice as much money to Russia than it has to Ukraine. America, on the other hand, has appropriated nearly $200B to Ukraine (over $100B in direct aid), yet paid only a tiny fraction of that to total Russian imports since 2014. In other words, America is a net economic supporter of Ukraine, while the EU is a net economic supporter of Russia. You are not "the good guys" that you think are.
  - Arodex 3mo ago
    >CO2 emissions have been consistently declining in both the USA and Europe for over 2 decades now. The bulk of the CO2 increase over that time period comes from China and India. Global warming didn't start two weeks ago, nor two decades ago. Most of human generated CO2 and most of the calories accumulated by greenhouse effect are still directly caused by Americans, both in absolute numbers and relative per capita. >Americans also invented the solar photovoltaic panel. Americans also elected PV panel haters, and are still destroying whole regions to extract more oil, both overseas and at home. >Also, since we're playing this game right now, I'd be remiss to not remind you that American individuals do over an order of magnitude more charitable giving than the entire EU combined, on a raw dollar basis. Hi, cool, are you going to give AC units to Europe? And the Middle East? And India/Bangladesh etc.? Maybe we should prosternate at your feet and thank you for you magnifiscence, oh great solvers of problem you caused.
pferdone 3mo ago
You didn't even read your own article.

inigyou 3mo ago

School shootings in America are not statistically unlikely, they are a regular occurrence.

anonym29 3mo ago
The odds a child will be killed by an armed assailant at a school in the USA are about 1 in 5 million per year, and if you narrow down to mass shootings at schools, that drops to about 1 in 10 million. Between 2013 and 2022, a total of 77 students in grades K-12 have been killed in 11 school mass shootings, in a country with 50 million school children. A child in America is about 500-600x more likely to die in a car accident than a school shooting. A child in America is about 90-120x more likely to die from a pedestrian fatality than a school shooting. A child in America is 70-90x more likely to die from choking than a school shooting. A child in America is 50-60x more likely to die from drowning than a school shooting. A child in America is 40-55x more likely to die in a fire or from smoke than a school shooting. A child in America is 10-15x more likely to die in a bicycle accident not involving a motor vehicle than from a school shooting. Comparable risks to dying in a school shooting include a fatal sting from a bee or wasp, (about twice a likely), or dying from being struck by lightning (about half as likely). School shootings, while tragic, do not pose nearly as much of a statistical threat as you think they do, even if they still pose more than they ought to.
- rjrjrjrj 3mo ago
  A child in America is more likely to die than a child in Europe, Canada, Aus, NZ, ...
  - anonym29 3mo ago
    Sure, but almost never from a school shooting - usually from a car accident. That is one place where I'll be the first to acknowledge America isn't doing great on with regards to child safety.
    - rjrjrjrj 3mo ago
      Often from a gun
      - anonym29 3mo ago
        Extremely rarely from a gun. And even when it is from a gun, it's not your kid dying from a gun, it's hundreds to thousands of "kids" (young teenagers) in places like Detroit and Chicago who have chosen an early career in armed carjacking and gang warfare, that skew the statistics for the entire nation. If you remove shootings committed by African Americans (which are overwhelmingly against other African Americans), America's gun violence rate per capita drops below that of Canada, below the Czech Republic, close to the EU average. See: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7242a4.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7242a4.htm Gun violence is something that the vast majority of Americans will never personally witness or experience, and will never even know anyone who has personally witnessed or experienced it.
        rjrjrjrj 3mo ago
        “in 2020, firearm-related injuries became the leading cause of death in that age group” [1-19] https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761
        3mo ago
fragmede 3mo ago
It is statistically likely that one will happen somewhere in the country , but it is also statically unlikely that it will happen at the one you are at.

tempfile 3mo ago

That article does not even normalise for population, so I have little faith in their ability to correct for less obvious mistakes.

Arodex 3mo ago

As a reminder, the heat killing Europeans right now is caused by America pumping ungodly amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere with virility-signalling cars and air conditioning set to 60 fahrenheit everywhere. You are literally mocking Europeans for being killed by your waste.

inigyou 3mo ago
Right now? Or a few weeks ago? Fewer weeks ago, America suffered the same heat wave but worse, so they got karma.
anonym29 3mo ago
CO2 emissions have been consistently declining in both the USA and Europe for over 2 decades now. The bulk of the CO2 increase over that time period comes from China and India. Americans also invented the solar photovoltaic panel. You're welcome. Also, since we're playing this game right now, I'd be remiss to not remind you that American individuals do over an order of magnitude more charitable giving than the entire EU combined, on a raw dollar basis. Speaking of giving - since 2014, the EU has purchased approximate €700-€900 billion worth of oil and natural gas alone from Russia (total EU imports from Russia exceed €1T in that time period), while offering less than €300 billion in support to Ukraine. The EU is responsible for funding Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and has given more than twice as much money to Russia than it has to Ukraine. America, on the other hand, has appropriated nearly $200B to Ukraine (over $100B in direct aid), yet paid only a tiny fraction of that to total Russian imports since 2014. In other words, America is a net economic supporter of Ukraine, while the EU is a net economic supporter of Russia. You are not "the good guys" that you think are.
- Arodex 3mo ago
  >CO2 emissions have been consistently declining in both the USA and Europe for over 2 decades now. The bulk of the CO2 increase over that time period comes from China and India. Global warming didn't start two weeks ago, nor two decades ago. Most of human generated CO2 and most of the calories accumulated by greenhouse effect are still directly caused by Americans, both in absolute numbers and relative per capita. >Americans also invented the solar photovoltaic panel. Americans also elected PV panel haters, and are still destroying whole regions to extract more oil, both overseas and at home. >Also, since we're playing this game right now, I'd be remiss to not remind you that American individuals do over an order of magnitude more charitable giving than the entire EU combined, on a raw dollar basis. Hi, cool, are you going to give AC units to Europe? And the Middle East? And India/Bangladesh etc.? Maybe we should prosternate at your feet and thank you for you magnifiscence, oh great solvers of problem you caused.

pferdone 3mo ago

You didn't even read your own article.