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Bad precedent for the Falkland Islands... Chagos and then Gibraltar, would force the Falklands issue to be addressed more seriously, and that would be extremely

Bad precedent for the Falkland Islands... Chagos and then Gibraltar, would force the Falklands issue to be addressed more seriously, and that would be extremely unfair, since the argentine moot argument it's a mere chauvinist temper tantrum, fueled by generation after generation of propaganda conditioning by failed governments.

ggm 3mo ago
A reminder the british government explored handing the Falklands over to Argentina before the war. Fisheries and oil, have changed the view but in times last it was not inconceivable to transfer authority.
- Tuna-Fish 3mo ago
  > Fisheries and oil, have changed the view No. The reason was not economic, the reason was that the government polled the people living there and found that support for remaining British is ~100%. Oil was found later, the fisheries were never worth maintaining the island for.
  - Laurel1234 3mo ago
    > No. The reason was not economic, the reason was that the government polled the people living there and found that support for remaining British is ~100%. The Russians in Donetsk and Luhansk also voted to be part of Russia and not Ukraine, crazy stuff.
    - maccard 3mo ago
      Are you genuinely comparing the referendums in Gibraltar to the current situation in Ukraine?
      - Laurel1234 3mo ago
        In both cases the settlers from an imperialist power vote their allegiance to said imperialist power.
        pelagicAustral 3mo ago
        Man, you truly are done drinking that kool-aid, you finished the whole jug by the look of it. I'd recommend you to come back to this thread every couple of years and re-read your slop, maybe you'll learn one or two things about yourself while at it.
        Laurel1234 3mo ago
        Feel free to explain the difference. All you can respond with is outrage because your position is not internally consistent. You can see its morally reprehensible when the Ruzzians do it but when it comes to your country oh no then it's fine because you just need your emotional support colonies. Like no shit one of your countrymen above said you couldn't give back Gibraltar because it'd set a bad precedent for Malvinas.
        pelagicAustral 3mo ago
        The place is called Falkland Islands, get used to it, it will never change.
        unkeen 3mo ago
        They're called Îles Malouines in French and Islas Malvinas in Spanish, after all.
        maccard 3mo ago
        > Feel free to explain the difference. Well for one, neither of the referendums in Gibraltar were performed within 6 months of being invaded by the UK. I don't think any(?) government recognises the results of the votes in the donbas regions - except for the country running a 4 year special military operation in the region. Those referendums were held 12 years ago, and still haven't been recognised by anyone. > All you can respond with is outrage because your position is not internally consistent Anyone who thinks that the situation in Gibraltar in 2026 is equivalent to the situation in the Donbas in 2026 is either ignoring _literally every single reason as to why they are different_, or they're just trolling. And honestly, based on the rest of your reply I'm pretty sure you're in the latter camp.
    - Tuna-Fish 3mo ago
      In a referendum where the votes were collected by armed men entering houses, giving you the ballot, and watching that you picked the correct choice. The vote in the Falklands was a secret ballot.
- arethuza 3mo ago
  I'm pretty sure that if the Argentinians hasn't invaded they would probably have the Falklands by now. As it is it I would think that it would be political suicide for any UK government to even contemplate any kind of deal.
ChocolateGod 3mo ago
To be fair, the situation of the Falklands is very different to Gibraltar. The Falklands were never Argentinian. The "native" inhabitants are the ones currently living there.
Laurel1234 3mo ago
Love that since you realise your position is untenable, you just refuse to address it so it doesn't evince how untenable your other positions are. Must give props to English honesty though, most people would be savvy enough to come up with some sophism to cover this reprehensible chain of thought. But it's so ingrained in your minds that you have some divine right to your unlawful colonial holdings you just won't even bother. PD: get the fuck out of Ireland and allow their Scots their referendum.

ggm 3mo ago

A reminder the british government explored handing the Falklands over to Argentina before the war. Fisheries and oil, have changed the view but in times last it was not inconceivable to transfer authority.

Tuna-Fish 3mo ago
> Fisheries and oil, have changed the view No. The reason was not economic, the reason was that the government polled the people living there and found that support for remaining British is ~100%. Oil was found later, the fisheries were never worth maintaining the island for.
- Laurel1234 3mo ago
  > No. The reason was not economic, the reason was that the government polled the people living there and found that support for remaining British is ~100%. The Russians in Donetsk and Luhansk also voted to be part of Russia and not Ukraine, crazy stuff.
  - maccard 3mo ago
    Are you genuinely comparing the referendums in Gibraltar to the current situation in Ukraine?
    - Laurel1234 3mo ago
      In both cases the settlers from an imperialist power vote their allegiance to said imperialist power.
      - pelagicAustral 3mo ago
        Man, you truly are done drinking that kool-aid, you finished the whole jug by the look of it. I'd recommend you to come back to this thread every couple of years and re-read your slop, maybe you'll learn one or two things about yourself while at it.
        Laurel1234 3mo ago
        Feel free to explain the difference. All you can respond with is outrage because your position is not internally consistent. You can see its morally reprehensible when the Ruzzians do it but when it comes to your country oh no then it's fine because you just need your emotional support colonies. Like no shit one of your countrymen above said you couldn't give back Gibraltar because it'd set a bad precedent for Malvinas.
        pelagicAustral 3mo ago
        The place is called Falkland Islands, get used to it, it will never change.
        unkeen 3mo ago
        They're called Îles Malouines in French and Islas Malvinas in Spanish, after all.
        maccard 3mo ago
        > Feel free to explain the difference. Well for one, neither of the referendums in Gibraltar were performed within 6 months of being invaded by the UK. I don't think any(?) government recognises the results of the votes in the donbas regions - except for the country running a 4 year special military operation in the region. Those referendums were held 12 years ago, and still haven't been recognised by anyone. > All you can respond with is outrage because your position is not internally consistent Anyone who thinks that the situation in Gibraltar in 2026 is equivalent to the situation in the Donbas in 2026 is either ignoring _literally every single reason as to why they are different_, or they're just trolling. And honestly, based on the rest of your reply I'm pretty sure you're in the latter camp.
  - Tuna-Fish 3mo ago
    In a referendum where the votes were collected by armed men entering houses, giving you the ballot, and watching that you picked the correct choice. The vote in the Falklands was a secret ballot.
arethuza 3mo ago
I'm pretty sure that if the Argentinians hasn't invaded they would probably have the Falklands by now. As it is it I would think that it would be political suicide for any UK government to even contemplate any kind of deal.

ChocolateGod 3mo ago

To be fair, the situation of the Falklands is very different to Gibraltar. The Falklands were never Argentinian. The "native" inhabitants are the ones currently living there.

Laurel1234 3mo ago

Love that since you realise your position is untenable, you just refuse to address it so it doesn't evince how untenable your other positions are. Must give props to English honesty though, most people would be savvy enough to come up with some sophism to cover this reprehensible chain of thought. But it's so ingrained in your minds that you have some divine right to your unlawful colonial holdings you just won't even bother. PD: get the fuck out of Ireland and allow their Scots their referendum.