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Isn't employer dependent healthcare basically slavery, blackmail or both ?
by m4rtink 3mo ago
Isn't employer dependent healthcare basically slavery, blackmail or both ?
- tempfile 3mo agoOnly to the extent that all waged employment is basically slavery (since healthcare is even less critical than food, water and housing).
- microtonal 3mo agoAlso in the US. In many other countries, you do not only initially get unemployment benefits, but also a form of basic income if the unemployment benefits expire and you haven't found a job, plus rent compensation, etc.
- petcat 3mo ago> In many other countries, you do not only initially get unemployment benefits, but also a form of basic income if the unemployment benefits expire and you haven't found a job, plus rent compensation, etc. It's the same everywhere in the US. Colloquially called "collecting unemployment".
- stvltvs 3mo agoOnly if you weren't fired for cause, are looking for full-time employment, have earned enough recently, etc.
- danaris 3mo agoUh, no? You get unemployment benefits. For a little while. In some places there may also be something like rent compensation, but generally unemployment benefits are supposed to be all-encompassing. (They are nowhere near enough to be all-encompassing.) Once the unemployment benefits end, you better have a job. My wife lost her job in the summer of 2020. We were incredibly lucky that the lockdowns meant extended unemployment benefits. They still lasted....I forget exactly, but I believe it was no more than about a year.
- robtherobber 3mo ago[flagged]
- vladvasiliu 3mo agoThis often comes up in discussions pitting the US against the EU countries. I'm not familiar with all of them, but here in "free, socialized healthcare" France, if you don't have a "mutuelle", which seems similar to "employer-dependant healthcare" in the US, you're going to have to pay out of pocket quite a lot of money. Maybe not as much as in the US (not familiar with that country), but very much not free. Think dental, glasses, needing to spend a night in a hospital for whatever reason (even public ones!), etc. On top of your salary being much lower. Sure, you don't need an employer to have a mutuelle, you can pay for your own. But it's usually pricier and worse coverage.