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This would also leave intact cookies, local/session storage, indexeddb, caches. All of which abusers do actually check, when controlling their victims.

by shakna 3mo ago

make3 3mo ago
I'm sure 99% don't? Unless your abuser is a CS major
- thomascountz 3mo ago
  There are tools which exist to make things such as this accessible to non-CS major perpetrators.
- AndrewThrowaway 3mo ago
  I wonder if Hans Reiser would have checked...
- shakna 3mo ago
  Have fun exploring the list of things we've caught abusers actually using. [0] Or don't. Reading and keeping your soul intact aren't compatible. I am 100% sure that some do, thanks to firsthand life. And any doing it, is enough to get people dead, even if 99% don't. And yes, CS majors can be abusers, too. [0] https://www.esafety.gov.au/key-topics/domestic-family-violence/online-safety-checklist https://www.esafety.gov.au/key-topics/domestic-family-violen...
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- latexr 3mo ago
  They do that and much worse. https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2014/09/15/346149979/smartphones-are-used-to-stalk-control-domestic-abuse-victims https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2014/09/15/34... It’s so prevalent it even has a name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalkerware https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalkerware Don’t underestimate an abuser’s ability to find a way.
otherme123 3mo ago
A quick check shows that they don't store anything as cookies or any other browser storage. The thing that still works is the back button after the redirection to Google, and you can still un-close the tab with Ctr-Shf-T which pops the Google page with back history intact. They have "cache-control: max-age=0" which probably should be changed to "cache-control: no-store". Still, the back button has the history if the user clicked links. Improvements could be: - Recommend the usage of incognito mode. - Blank the page immediately with "document.body.innerHTML=''" before the page replacement, as the replacement alone can have a delay and the abuser could see a glimpse of the police page. Blanking is immediate.
- jorams 3mo ago
  > Blank the page immediately with "document.body.innerHTML=''" before the page replacement That's what the "document.body.style.opacity = 0;" is for. Though I agree emptying out the body is probably better.

This would also leave intact cookies, local/session storage, indexeddb, caches. All of which abusers do actually check, when controlling their victims.

by shakna 3mo ago

This would also leave intact cookies, local/session storage, indexeddb, caches. All of which abusers do actually check, when controlling their victims.

make3 3mo ago

I'm sure 99% don't? Unless your abuser is a CS major

thomascountz 3mo ago
There are tools which exist to make things such as this accessible to non-CS major perpetrators.
AndrewThrowaway 3mo ago
I wonder if Hans Reiser would have checked...
shakna 3mo ago
Have fun exploring the list of things we've caught abusers actually using. [0] Or don't. Reading and keeping your soul intact aren't compatible. I am 100% sure that some do, thanks to firsthand life. And any doing it, is enough to get people dead, even if 99% don't. And yes, CS majors can be abusers, too. [0] https://www.esafety.gov.au/key-topics/domestic-family-violence/online-safety-checklist https://www.esafety.gov.au/key-topics/domestic-family-violen...
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latexr 3mo ago
They do that and much worse. https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2014/09/15/346149979/smartphones-are-used-to-stalk-control-domestic-abuse-victims https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2014/09/15/34... It’s so prevalent it even has a name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalkerware https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalkerware Don’t underestimate an abuser’s ability to find a way.

otherme123 3mo ago

A quick check shows that they don't store anything as cookies or any other browser storage. The thing that still works is the back button after the redirection to Google, and you can still un-close the tab with Ctr-Shf-T which pops the Google page with back history intact. They have "cache-control: max-age=0" which probably should be changed to "cache-control: no-store". Still, the back button has the history if the user clicked links. Improvements could be: - Recommend the usage of incognito mode. - Blank the page immediately with "document.body.innerHTML=''" before the page replacement, as the replacement alone can have a delay and the abuser could see a glimpse of the police page. Blanking is immediate.

jorams 3mo ago
> Blank the page immediately with "document.body.innerHTML=''" before the page replacement That's what the "document.body.style.opacity = 0;" is for. Though I agree emptying out the body is probably better.