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Because you'd need to re-educate hundreds of millions of people, and it's a pretty weak message: "this symbol of hatred and genocide has other meanings, too!"
by simonw 3mo ago
Because you'd need to re-educate hundreds of millions of people, and it's a pretty weak message: "this symbol of hatred and genocide has other meanings, too!"
... and you'll be playing into the hands of people who want to get a swastika tattoo and then pretend they didn't mean any harm by doing so.
- daneel_w 3mo agoYeah that sounds like a really sound rationale. It's only far more than a billion people to whom the symbol has a powerful and positive meaning. Let's completely ignore that and say that the 80 year old Western perspective is a lot more important.
- vlian2088 3mo agothose people are far less numerous than you seem to believe. also, the current far right is not particularly fond of tattoos.
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- Razengan 3mo agoThere was a time when pentagrams and tattoos of SATAN were edgy and controversial Now it's "ehh" Only silly people still use them unironically and only silly people get offended by them.
- simonw 3mo agoI don't think it's silly to get offended by a swastika tattoo.
- Razengan 3mo agoYou didn't respond to the other commenters. This reeks of "virtue signaling": Someone trying to show they are morally superior by doing the minimum effort, like blanket banning something. I never heard of swastikas in QR codes being a problem before.
- BobaFloutist 3mo agoRight, because nobody has killed millions of people while representing themselves with a pentagram. The comparison falls flat.
- Razengan 3mo agoIn the last 100 years the USA has bombed more people than all other nations combined. Japan/Vietnam/Laos/Cambodia + most of the Middle East etc. have more of a valid reason to ban depictions of the American flag, than the West has for co-opting an ancient symbol of peace to mean evil and then refusing to "return" it. Did you not see the other comments about this or just chose not to respond?
- slipperybeluga 3mo ago[dead]
- mdp2021 3mo ago> re-educate hundreds of millions of people That is mandated, and actually they are expected to get out of the house educated already (de jure. De facto, it's different, but they should anyway). > this symbol of hatred and genocide According to which scum, to which you are confering unduly power? > has other meanings, too Those absolutely primary, ! one million times?! -- Simon, let us go to the core: properly developed people do not reason like fools, and they are not to conform to foolery.
- Razengan 3mo agoThis perfectly valid comment by slipperybeluga is still showing up as [dead] for some reason so I'll repost it for them: > What an incredibly narrow view that completely dismisses the culture and history of the majority of the planet. As others have said, it's still in use in India and China which make up the majority of the population on earth. Rather than discarding their culture and history, we can just stop indoctrinating children year after year on a single point in time and history. A lot of tragedies occurred in the last 100 years. My 13 years of public school education didn't once cover Armenian Genocide, Stalin's forced collectivisation famine deaths, Mao's great famine, Khmer rouge, or the 5 million+ American military caused civilian deaths in the last 100 years. But we covered "the" holocaust every year (even the title treats like it's the only holocaust). Are the political symbols of these other terrible events and actors emblazoned in your mind and if not, why not? Why give it so much power? > The swastika has thousands of years of history outside this tiny point in time. Used by everyone from native Americans to vikings to indians and east Asians. Silly to have to hide from it and try to destroy it because evil people coopted it in one corner of the earth for < 0.5% of its history.
- simonw 3mo agoThat's some pretty heavy "whataboutism" right there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
- Razengan 3mo agoThe victors liberated the POWs but they couldn't liberate the symbol.
- daneel_w 3mo agoIt's precisely what you're doing. You just insist that Western events in the last century are more important, more "valid", and must take precedence. "A billion people in Asia use, live with and benefit from this symbol on a daily basis, since millennia." - "OK but what about the atrocities in WW2?"
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