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Oracle Cloud sometimes feels like an elaborate prank that I'm not in on. I know people and companies on AWS (obviously), Azure, Google Cloud, Hetzner, CloudFlar

Oracle Cloud sometimes feels like an elaborate prank that I'm not in on. I know people and companies on AWS (obviously), Azure, Google Cloud, Hetzner, CloudFlare's various PaaS offerings, etc., but I can't name a single thing running on Oracle Cloud. Somebody out there is clearly using but I'll be damned if I know who it is.

cyberpunk 3mo ago
zoom. uber. airbnb. openai. bunch of banks. samsung, apparently..
- seattle_spring 3mo ago
  I know at least one of those only uses Oracle for internal/HR "cloud" purposes, while their main customer-facing business is on AWS. Not sure about the others, but when I think of a business using "Oracle cloud" I don't interpret it as just their marketing/HR.
  - soared 3mo ago
    A lot of internal stuff ends up on Oracle cloud since it’s easier, jira, confluence, etc
alephnerd 3mo ago
> I can't name a single thing running on Oracle Cloud CrowdStrike and Uber > Hetzner I don't know of any upper market EMEA customers on Hetzner. I've met Scaleway, OVHCloud, and even STACKIT users but never Hetzner.
- ethbr1 3mo ago
  I think the market for Oracle Cloud is the same for early GCP: companies with large enough needs and strong enough engineering teams that they can leverage "X runs on Oracle Cloud" into deep discounts. And then cover the gaps with engineering.
  - alephnerd 3mo ago
    Partially. It's basically only enterprise and upper market organizations that were hit by billing re-negotiations by AWS, GCP, or Azure and want a high touch experience.
  - wil421 3mo ago
    A company I worked at knowingly bought very sub-par oracle products just to get discounts on the Oracle ERP and DB stuff.
tmp10423288442 3mo ago
TikTok for US users
- bhouston 3mo ago
  When your customers are government mandated, are they really customers or hostages?
  - dragonwriter 3mo ago
    Uh, while the sale to the Oracle-led group was government mandated, the use of Oracle Cloud for hosting by the new US TikTok is just self-dealing by the new ownership. Of course, when your “customers” are just self-dealing, that’s also not a great sign.
xorcist 3mo ago
Keep in mind that Oracle can be deliberately nebulous about what their cloud offering is (pun intended). Any hosted service can be bent into the shape of a cloud. Large parts of Oracle Cloud balance sheet is probably just hosted PeopleSoft and similar. They have this in common with IBM which, at least on paper, have a large cloud business.
neo_doom 3mo ago
We host more than 200 customers in OCI (because we have to). Its terrible. The service is terrible and they are breaking stuff all the time. Amsterdam down for a few hours today alone. We spend millions with them and can’t even get someone to join a bridge. It’s baaad
nunez 3mo ago
Zoom ran on OCI some time ago; not sure if they still do. (They got a shitload of free credits iirc) Many companies use OCI for their Oracle DBs, as I believe they get some sort of discount when run this way.

cyberpunk 3mo ago

zoom. uber. airbnb. openai. bunch of banks. samsung, apparently..

seattle_spring 3mo ago
I know at least one of those only uses Oracle for internal/HR "cloud" purposes, while their main customer-facing business is on AWS. Not sure about the others, but when I think of a business using "Oracle cloud" I don't interpret it as just their marketing/HR.
- soared 3mo ago
  A lot of internal stuff ends up on Oracle cloud since it’s easier, jira, confluence, etc

alephnerd 3mo ago

> I can't name a single thing running on Oracle Cloud CrowdStrike and Uber > Hetzner I don't know of any upper market EMEA customers on Hetzner. I've met Scaleway, OVHCloud, and even STACKIT users but never Hetzner.

ethbr1 3mo ago
I think the market for Oracle Cloud is the same for early GCP: companies with large enough needs and strong enough engineering teams that they can leverage "X runs on Oracle Cloud" into deep discounts. And then cover the gaps with engineering.
- alephnerd 3mo ago
  Partially. It's basically only enterprise and upper market organizations that were hit by billing re-negotiations by AWS, GCP, or Azure and want a high touch experience.
- wil421 3mo ago
  A company I worked at knowingly bought very sub-par oracle products just to get discounts on the Oracle ERP and DB stuff.

tmp10423288442 3mo ago

TikTok for US users

bhouston 3mo ago
When your customers are government mandated, are they really customers or hostages?
- dragonwriter 3mo ago
  Uh, while the sale to the Oracle-led group was government mandated, the use of Oracle Cloud for hosting by the new US TikTok is just self-dealing by the new ownership. Of course, when your “customers” are just self-dealing, that’s also not a great sign.

xorcist 3mo ago

Keep in mind that Oracle can be deliberately nebulous about what their cloud offering is (pun intended). Any hosted service can be bent into the shape of a cloud. Large parts of Oracle Cloud balance sheet is probably just hosted PeopleSoft and similar. They have this in common with IBM which, at least on paper, have a large cloud business.

neo_doom 3mo ago

We host more than 200 customers in OCI (because we have to). Its terrible. The service is terrible and they are breaking stuff all the time. Amsterdam down for a few hours today alone. We spend millions with them and can’t even get someone to join a bridge. It’s baaad

nunez 3mo ago

Zoom ran on OCI some time ago; not sure if they still do. (They got a shitload of free credits iirc) Many companies use OCI for their Oracle DBs, as I believe they get some sort of discount when run this way.