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>That's fast food thinking You're simply drawing the line where it suits you. I don't consider it pure human coding if you use anything but Notepad.
by budsniffer952 3mo ago
>That's fast food thinking
You're simply drawing the line where it suits you.
I don't consider it pure human coding if you use anything but Notepad.
- hoppp 3mo agoWhat about punch cards? Real programmers write the code and throw it away after compilation. All the fixes happen in the binary. You are not a real programmer unless you debug hex dumps and add changes directly to the compiled program. Text editor? No. You punch the program on cards and then wait 1 week to get your turn and get a compiler error.
- budsniffer952 3mo agoNope, I draw my line at Notepad!
- rmunn 3mo agoEDLIN.EXE or bust!
- pixl97 3mo agohttps://xkcd.com/378/ https://xkcd.com/378/
- hoppp 3mo agohttps://www.quiche-eater.com/the_real_text.html https://www.quiche-eater.com/the_real_text.html
- MisterTea 3mo ago> You're simply drawing the line where it suits you. I'm drawing the line where the human effort is no longer there. There was a similar argument against electronic music. No effort because no instrument is played. But the fact is the instrument just changed shape, drastically. Like there's an artist I am sure a few here would be familiar with: Master Boot Record, a video game heavy metal electronic blend fully composed on a DAW. MBR live streams his composition sessions while chillin in his own irc channel he's hosting himself so you can chat with him. It's impressive to hear how he lays down notes, loops it, tweaks and expands it, then little by little builds a song passage by passage. Often with the irc channel reacting to the process itself and perhaps influencing the output. You know when it finally clicks and you're left feeling "Oh that was cool as fuck!" That's uniquely human, a life form that evolved over billions of years on a mud ball floating in a vast vacuum - at random. Talking, thinking, playing, laughing meat. Amazing huh? An AI shitting out a similar pattern because it was trained on the same and similar patterns is not interesting or original. It's just a really good illusion from a well tuned stochastic parrot. It's interesting in the technical sense, but not in the artistic one. There was no creative process involved. Prompting is just a well formed set of instructions and questions which a human could understand - a spec. Nothing special there. It's like driving to McDonalds and ordering a quarter pounder with cheese meal. As a search engine, cool. As an artist, no thanks.
- EagnaIonat 3mo ago> It's just a really good illusion from a well tuned stochastic parrot. The stochastic parrot claim is long gone. Someone with actual skill in their respective field can create something new and original from current AI systems. The real danger is that creative/intelligent people are giving up those abilities and letting the AI do it for them.
- antonvs 3mo agoThe stochastic parrot claim is as apt as ever. It’s just that it turned out that humans are just stochastic parrots, too.
- MisterTea 3mo ago> The stochastic parrot claim is long gone. That's just marketing.
- EagnaIonat 3mo agoCan you elaborate?
- antonvs 3mo agoExcuse me, I use Neovim but with no automation - no completions, no language server. Pure human coding. It’s not Notepad, but I’m not a masochist.