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Reviving a 15-year-old netbook with Arch Linux

230 points by parksb 3mo ago

russfink 3mo ago
The article just sort of stops. Was the ram upgrade helpful? How was the mouse - was it choppy like in Windows XP as discussed at the top of the article? (And whatever happened to twm, possibly the lightest window manager around?)
- bcraven 3mo ago
  "I did not expect much, and because the bottlenecks were the HDD and CPU I did not feel any noticeable performance improvement." Sounds like it started on XP running poorly, and ended on Arch... running poorly.
- DiggyJohnson 3mo ago
  would love to see twm get active again as well
  - 2b3a51 3mo ago
    Have a look at MWM (Motif Window Manager). Colour icons (gasp) and windows that actually maximise. Packaged in Debian so I suppose around in Arch repositories somewhere.
    - DiggyJohnson 2mo ago
      Thanks!
- 2b3a51 3mo ago
  twm still around but might be a separate package these days and not in X11 core. CWM (Calm Window Manager) from OpenBSD is available in portable form and packaged for Debian. Very light and good for tiny screens (little decoration).
MarioMan 3mo ago
I did the same thing with my netbook 4 years ago, but I went with Debian instead to make my life a bit easier. It was, at the time, one of a small number of distros that still officially supported x86 32-bit binaries. The challenges came from tracking down working Wi-Fi drivers for the proprietary hardware and updating the BIOS, since the stock version has a bug where it emits lid close events that Windows XP ignores but Linux dutifully handles.
serious_angel 3mo ago
The Community behind the marvelous project as ArchLinux32, are ineffably awesome... The project provide various options, including i496, i696, and pentium4 architectures with or without PAE requirements. The OS comes with pre-configured systemd, and supports numerous up-to-date repositories out-of-the-box. Some relatively lightweight custom window manager like Awesome or i3wm may also shape the environment if X required. Apparently, I do still have a few photos in backups of someone's own enchanted marvel of a portal to universes powered by a Celeron D, USB pen-drive of 16 GiB, a single RAM of 1 GiB, we all managed to acquire and built, for such a short time we had! Preview of the device: https://imgur.com/gallery/h1tWKp3 https://imgur.com/gallery/h1tWKp3 Since the CPU had no physical address extension (PAE) to electrify a more common OS, and something customary was required for the limited resources, where we chose ArchLinux 32-bit (now ArchLinux32, indeed) and arranged a custom AwesomeWM environment visually suggesting a console design just for it! And dear... we adventured a few nights back then backed by this machine and some self-compiled emulation software, ZSnes and Gens, for the titles she had collected from a few local stores and magazines! It was quite long ago... more than a decade and half... but it like all happened just yesterday, and how freaking awesome it was! You likely had a similar event/memory! Please do remember these... Related: https://www.archlinux32.org/architecture/ https://www.archlinux32.org/architecture/ (The below table lists the compatibility of CPUs (identified by their available flags) with architectures...)
- tommica 3mo ago
  Beautiful little box!
- anthk 3mo ago
  For SNES I'd use Mednafen with the snes_faust core; and for difficult games to emulate I'd use the snes core. Also Mednafen works for MD/NES/GB/GBA/NGP and tons more systems. PCSX-PGXP runs really well too, forget PGXP on that machine but at low resolution games will run fine with a simple bilinear filter. Parasiteve Eve can be damn addictive ;) Also, text adventure games; a good one with a great history such Tristam Island it's fine too. Also, compile Scummvm with these options from git (pacman -S scummvm, check the dependencies; run pacman -R scummvm later), then compile it with these options: #!/bin/sh export CC="clang" export CXX="clang++" export CXXFLAGS="-fpermissive -fcommon" export LDFLAGS="-Wl,-z,muldefs" export LANG=C make clean -j4 env CC="clang" CXX="clang++" sh configure \ --enable-static \ --enable-all-engines \ --enable-all-unstable-engines \ --enable-release \ --enable-plugins \ --disable-hq-scalers \ --disable-dlc \ --disable-scummvmdlc \ --disable-discord make CC="ccache clang" CXX="ccache clang++" LDFLAGS+="-Wl,-z,muldefs"
z0ltan 3mo ago
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tommica 3mo ago
Had a few Eee machines back in the day, loved them a lot. Crazy to see them in the current time being revived.
trelane 3mo ago
I really miss netbooks. They were an amazing moment for Linux. No surprise Microsoft killed them.
- internet2000 3mo ago
  Netbooks didn’t need Microsoft’s help in dying. Nobody bought more than one of them, the experience was that bad.
  - DANmode 3mo ago
    It’s much like today’s mobile experience. Most people fall for marketing, do no deep research or consideration of their needs, and have a piss-poor time. But some did the reading: Ubuntu on the Dell Mini 9, for example, was a dreamboat!, with or without touchscreen mod.
  - trelane 3mo ago
    > Netbooks didn’t need Microsoft’s help in dying. Amazing how many of Microsoft's competitors don't need the help, yet receive it. > Nobody bought more than one of them, the experience was that bad. https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/netbook-sales-exploded-in-2008-dell-not-responsible/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/netbook-sales-exploded-i... "The market for small and cheap laptops -- netbooks -- boomed in 2008, with almost 15 million of the things sold globally." On the contrary, they were incredibly popular.
    - tmp10423288442 3mo ago
      Yes, they seemed like a good idea - they were really cheap, and had decent battery life for the time - but the compromises were such that you really wouldn’t want to buy another netbook if you could. After the first few releases, the MacBook Air became what the non-cheapskate buyers of netbooks wanted.
      - trelane 3mo ago
        > compromises were such that you really wouldn’t want to buy another netbook if you could. This is directly contradicted by the existence of Netbook fans.
achairapart 3mo ago
I have one of these in a closet and wondered for years about how to turn it in a distraction free word processor/simple digital typewriter. Always loved the netbook form factor, and they were cheap! Funny thing is that probably I also have some 2GB DDR2 stick somewhere. Last thing I need to check for is the battery, I presume it is completely down after all those years. Anyway, this article will be very handy for this side project. Thank you!
- atoav 3mo ago
  I would say, you install a lightweight Linux, boot directly into your favorite distraction free editor at full screen and sync the files back to phone and big computer via something like syncthing/Nextcloud/etc. As for which editor that is, it depends a little bit on your needs, but there are ones specifically geared towards being distraction free like https://ghostwriter.kde.org/ https://ghostwriter.kde.org/ Although markdown may not be what you're after. I personally consider formatting another form of distraction, ao this would be a plus for me. But if you write math-heavy papers, going with something else like Typst or LATeX may be a better choice.
  - achairapart 3mo ago
    Thanks! Ghostwriter is a really good candidate. I mostly use iA Writer on my mac and they seem to share the same philosophy.
- pjerem 3mo ago
  I'd install HaikuOS on it.
- drdexebtjl 3mo ago
  I tried this a while back. The main problem was that their keyboards are usually terrible.
- marttt 3mo ago
  Re: distraction free writing machine -- another option would be a FreeDOS/SvarDOS-based system: https://www.theregister.com/software/2025/04/26/build-your-own-antisocial-writing-rig-with-dos-and-a-usb-key/807864 https://www.theregister.com/software/2025/04/26/build-your-o... No kidding. Lots of fun to see a system actually boot in about 1 second. That aside, I've installed all kinds of systems on my trusty 2009 Dell Mini 9, a fanless netbook. For years, this was a CLI-only Tiny Core Linux system, currently running SvarDOS. While on Linux, I even used it to live record 1,5-hour long radio shows via an old Mbox2 audio interface and some CLI recording software. Created a huge ramdisk just in case, but everything went well. Netbooks are weird and interesting machines.
drdexebtjl 3mo ago
These 2008-2010 era netbooks are impossible to use as a desktop. They were already painfully slow when they were new, so much so that OEMs shipped them dual booting a stripped down OS. I had an HP Mini. It had a weird 1024x600 display panel, and a lot of applications expect you to have at least 1024x768. Sometimes apps would work fine until they opened a modal that was just a bit too tall, and you had to pray that Enter or Escape did something reasonable. A few years ago I installed Debian, qBittorrent and Samba. I figured it could handle something IO-bound. I ran it for a couple of years and then recycled it when my Internet got faster than the 100 Mbps ethernet card. A tip if you have one of those laying around and it always ran a 32-bit OS is to check if the CPU is really 32-bit only. Only the very first Atom generation was 32-bit, but the next generations had poor 64-bit driver support on Windows, so OEMs shipped it as a 32-bit machine. Not the case for OP’s netbook, theirs is really 32-bit only.
- bee_rider 3mo ago
  I had a Toshiba NB305, which apparently had an Atom N450 (just looking at some old reviews, I don’t have it running anymore). It seemed fine for basic command line stuff and some web browsing (websites already had too much JavaScript at the time but at least you could usually get away with turning it off without losing any essential functionality). It was by far my favorite laptop I’ve ever had. I put an SSD in it, though, which made a pretty huge difference.
- andai 3mo ago
  > Sometimes apps would work fine until they opened a modal that was just a bit too tall, and you had to pray that Enter or Escape did something reasonable. Do you mean that the titlebar would be off screen so you couldn't move/close the window? https://xkcd.com/1479/ https://xkcd.com/1479/ On the Xfce desktop at least there's a nice shortcut, alt+drag with left mouse button to move any window, and alt+drag with right mouse button to resize it. That's honestly the Linux thing I miss most when using any other OS.
  - littlecranky67 3mo ago
    I use bettertouchtool on macos to replicate exactly that behavior (and many more).
mintflow 3mo ago
Linux can really unlock old hardware well, and glad it work great on 32bit systems Recently retired my pc with fx6300 because it take too much desktop space; and just setup a mini pc with j6412, also installed arch Linux, i3wm for desktop stuffs Also find a old usb Bluetooth receiver make it play some music It works great and use this new setup to get a Agent free experience
- andai 3mo ago
  What's the last part referring to? Isn't all Linux agent free by definition? Or do you mean, compared to windows? I am running agents on my ten year old ThinkPad T460. I gave them their own user account, to limit blast radius, but I haven't had any issues with them nuking things yet. (Except for my code quality...) Well, maybe my API keys with $5 credit have been exfiltrated though. The world may never know :)
codelion 3mo ago
I use a 2010 Macbook Air with Linux XFCE desktop and it works well for browsing and simple office work.
stasiu 3mo ago
This brings back memories. I loved my Asus Eee PC 1215p. Bought it with my own money. It was the computer I had when I was moving out of my parental home when I was 20 y/o. When I moved out I had Ubuntu installed on it, but in my student room I realised I had issues with connecting to the internet somehow. Went back to my moms and installed back Windows 7, with the Windows 98 look-and-feel-setting which was a built in option, great user experience. The last Windows machine I even used, but it was amazing. I brought it with me on my hitch hiking adventures through Europe, was using it to DJ using my personal iTunes library in a Polish hippie/hacker/eco village I was staying at. Eventually I stupidly broke the keyboard my cleaning it with a wet towel when it was on, I still feel bad about that really. What a machine, I absolutely loved it!
- iammjm 3mo ago
  I too had it and remember it fondly, it got me through my studies. Very portable machine. I eventually swapped it for a thinkpad which I loved even more. Now I’m with a MacBook Air for the time being, but I think I’ll get another thinkpad when the time comes
  - stasiu 3mo ago
    After this Eee PC I bought a 2014 MacBook Pro, again amazing machine. Used it through out my CS studies and beyond. After that I had some different machines from my employers but my personal laptop is a ThinkPad t480s, nice machine for Linux.
  - jambalaya8 3mo ago
    I miss the form factor of the old netbooks. The 2gb swappable to generally up to 4gb ram was really never great, though was fine with linux as long as you set your swap partition up correctly, though I wouldn't be expecting much in the way of running things like virtualbox or any modern IDE. The 32bit support only was fine then, not now (and with only 2-4gb ram, you didn't want 64bit anyway). Perfectly adequate for most web dev, scripting, blogging, chatting, network stuff, remote systems administration, etc. The old netbooks took handling less carefully much more well than anything now other than probably an Apple laptop (I mean, if it fell, odds are it wouldn't break as easily; the ones with hard drives, maybe not as well, but it took more than once; talking the screen and keyboard). I imagine this is why you liked it. Easy to backpack with. They were also great for running out for coffee and working without schlepping a full-sized laptop. I mean the ones with hard drives, not the ones with teeny tiny ssd's. Hard to do much on those, and slower. Is crunchbang still around?
paperb4g 3mo ago
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ezst 3mo ago
Did my whole engineering curriculum as my single computer, ran MATLAB and other JVM GUIs/IDEs on 1GB RAM/Atom N450. The build and display were horrendous, but that was a good companion to take notes during lectures and in the lab.
- embedding-shape 3mo ago
  Similarly, I was hacking on a tiny netbook before I was a professional programmer, everything about it was awful, the keyboard was Norwegian and it was missing some keys, but eventually I managed to build up enough of a portfolio with it that I got my first internship and eventually got hired. Old photo (2013) of it, running Kubuntu (Xubuntu maybe even?) at this point I think: https://i.imgur.com/1NRIZrg.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/1NRIZrg.jpeg
  - ezst 3mo ago
    Haha, same vibe! Mine was running mandrake/mandriva + kde. Also programming on such a low specced device gave a superpower (and good coding hygiene): you would immediately spot memleaks and inefficient code because you would feel it as entire seconds of slowness and unresponsiveness. Like, none of my GUI apps had work happening on the event thread, but I could immediately tell which ones would.
  - ramgine 3mo ago
    Unrelated to your post (I missed those form factors) but has imgur become enshittified too? If I try to zoom in on your picture it gives me a popup I can’t clear telling me to install the app. Sad.
cjfd 3mo ago
I kept my old laptop (bought in 2007) alive for quite a while too. But last year I finally retired it. I also used archlinux 32 which worked fine for a while. But at some point the breakages really got too bad. I was using xfce4. For a while the xfce4-terminal was broken and would not start. That has the easy workaround of using xterm instead. But there were more breakages and it just started taking too much time. Quite a bit of software is ditching, or has ditched, 32-bit support.
jbl0ndie 3mo ago
I bought a subsidised Windows EeePC 901 and stuck Ubuntu Netbook Remix on it. Much more useable. Windows was laughably bad. It limited the number of open applications! There was also a EeePC specific https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyPeasy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyPeasy which was even better. Since then I have installed various things for amusement, including a cut down Chromebook OS and the OLPC Linux. The limit was always the tiny root partition (4GB SSD). I had some limited success joining with the second SSD (16GB) using btrfs. I think the albeit tiny SSD was this machine's saving grace compared to HDD models, in terms of speed.
teekert 3mo ago
I would still be using my 1000HE if the mouse and power buttons hadn’t stopped working (would have put an ssd in it then). Sure the keyboard keys are a bit wobbly but otherwise I really loved that machine. Nice form factor. Would love to be able to get a new 400$-ish 10-11” netbook with 6+ hour battery that would fly with some minimal Linux. Recommendations?
- alterom 3mo ago
  I had the 1000HE too, and ran everything from LaTeX to DAWs on it. The only serious contender in that category now IMO is Chuwi Minibook X.
- internet2000 3mo ago
  Compromise a little bit on the size (but not much, considering bezels!) and $~400 gets you a 100x better computer https://www.ebay.com/itm/145639218896 https://www.ebay.com/itm/145639218896
all2 3mo ago
My current laptop is a 15 year old freebie from work. It does everything I need it to. Except for run all the boosted agent frameworks. It chokes on open code, Claude Code, I don't dare try codex.
- applfanboysbgon 3mo ago
  Codex CLI is written in Rust and significantly more efficient than Claude Code. I had no trouble running it on a 2012 laptop. VSCode/standard browsers were the main problem software, as one would expect.
  - tmp10423288442 3mo ago
    And you can remote control it from the Codex Desktop app (now the new ChatGPT app) or from the ChatGPT mobile app.
neuropacabra 3mo ago
It was Acer EEE 1000HA (very similar to the one from this article) which made me to use Linux. Eventually even a new one under XP was terribly slow. To that moment I was quite enjoying Windows but this device opened a door into computers for me. I never used Windows again and learned a ton by building GMA950 drivers as they were not shipped with Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron (omg). On one had terrible device on other hand I guess I wouldn’t start using Linux/macos and learned how to code. So lucky device, I guess?
- alterom 3mo ago
  Asus, not Acer :) They pioneered the netbook with the EeePC line. Sadly, they didn't keep it alive.
globular-toast 3mo ago
I have a 17 year old Dell Mini 9 that's never seen Windows in its life. Was one of the first laptops I could find that didn't have the Windows tax. I put Gentoo on it several years ago, which took a few days, I wonder if the binaries come in 32 bit nowadays. While most things ran absolutely fine, Firefox ran like crap, which really makes you realise how awful the modern web is. When I got the netbook I had dreams of hacking in Emacs wherever I went. The tiny keyboard makes that quite uncomfortable, though. So it was only really used as a music player and web browser while traveling a few times, basically what you'd use a phone for today.
- microtonal 3mo ago
  Was one of the first laptops I could find that didn't have the Windows tax. In the early/mid 2000s, we used to buy computers, install Linux and then ask Dell etc. to refund the Windows license, which often worked. My girlfriend at the time got a Dell desktop really cheap that way. IIRC it cost something like 400 or 500 Euro and Dell refunded ~100 Euro for not using the Windows license. I never really understood the economics, because installing Windows was probably profitable for them due to the adware shipped with Windows. Probably it was easier/better for them to just give a refund to noisy Linux users than to admit that they were making big bucks on all the crap shipped with the Windows installation. As an aside, at the time a lot of HP laptops could be purchased with FreeDOS and I think Lenovo was similar.
b800h 3mo ago
I loved my Eee PC - I'd use it to program on the bus, train, or on a plane, but for me they were killed off by a combination of smartphones, and getting a driving license. Some years back I bought a new battery for mine, and reinstalled Linux, but I just couldn't find a use for it.
MayeulC 3mo ago
I still use my Samsung n130, though I went with Alpine after Arch dropped support for 32 bit (there were a few pain points with Arch 32 in the early days, I tried guix but it was too slow and guix uses a lot of RAM during updates). It works decently, is sufficient for ssh-ing into other hosts. Though web browsing is a pain. I used to mostly use Dillo and elinks, MPV+yt-dlp for videos. Unfortunately I left it sit for a bit too long and the battery is dead now. I'm thinking of fixing it and upgrading the power port to USB-C. Sometimes I also think about building a compute module-based motherboard for it. There were interesting bits in the setup (blacklisting defective RAM addresses for instance), maybe I should make a short writeup :)
- SuspectTurtle 3mo ago
  I am very attached to my n130 and still use it daily. I'm still running Debian 12 because they dropped 32bit support for 13. Coupled with i3 window manager and i get by with it. If you do attempt a USB-C mod let me know how it goes! It's something I've also considered.
  - MayeulC 3mo ago
    Sure! I ordered the necessary part years ago, but didn't get around to do it yet. Having someone else interested may finally motivate me. Please leave some contact info on your HN profile (or use mine), so that I can let you know.
    - SuspectTurtle 2mo ago
      I actually created an account just to reply to your comment because I was so excited to see another N130 user. I'll be sure to fill out my profile at some point
ocd 3mo ago
I guess there aren't that many options anymore for x86, but for really old amd64 I've been using Void Linux recently. It's not too bad even for non-technical users if they're provided an alias/function file to source in shell (with obvious naming conventions like "upgrade" or something.)
jordand 3mo ago
I tried reviving my Asus Eee PC 1015PEM (1.5GHz dual core, 2GB RAM) and even running Linux Mint was a bit much for it (basic tasks were slow, and Wine had too much overhead for games). I initially tried upgrading the Windows 7 Starter to Windows 10, and while the upgrade did work...it was failing to even log in! Whole thing just seemed stalled.
- anthk 3mo ago
  For games Mednafen and PCSXR do wonders; and SCummvm itself supports tons of graphical and text adventures (even modern ones such as Technobabylon) and tons of source ports (and recompilations such as Super Mario 64) will run fine with just the bundled GL 2.1 adapter. Instead of Mint I'd pick something like Alpine Linux with LXQT: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/LXQt https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/LXQt Also, adding ZRAM will fly on that machine. Also, you can build SCUMMVM (install alpine-sdk, get the alpine ports and edit the pkg build file so scummvm gets compiled with these options at the configure build stage: #!/bin/sh sh configure \ --enable-static \ --enable-all-engines \ --enable-all-unstable-engines \ --enable-release \ --enable-plugins \ --disable-hq-scalers \ --disable-dlc \ --disable-scummvmdlc \ --disable-discord With these options even Macromedia Director stuff will run (maybe Encarta 95 and the like) and modern games such as Technobabylon, Thimbleweed Park and so on.
  - Narishma 3mo ago
    Zswap is better than ZRAM for this use case. ZRAM is only really interesting in situations where you don't want any swap to disk, like when running on an SD card or something.
- lproven 3mo ago
  You went the wrong direction. Go older, not newer. After trying dozens of lightweight Linuxes with disappointing results, I downgraded my Sony Vaio P to WinXP. This has full GPU acceleration on Intel Pouslbo and for XP the machine's 2GB of RAM is spacious. Sad, but there we are.
- Narishma 3mo ago
wazoox 3mo ago
I think Slackware would have been a good fit, and much easier to install :)
- lproven 3mo ago
  Nah. Alpine, or TinyCore. Much smaller: Slackware is biiiiig.
  - prmoustache 3mo ago
    Honestly netbsd is usually my os of choice in that kind of projects.
shlokkshahh 3mo ago
ya all should i get arch?
anthk 3mo ago
Add zram: #!/bin/sh modprobe zram if [ -e /dev/zram0 ] then echo "zram0 on" exit 1 fi zramctl --find --size 512M mkswap /dev/zram0 swapon -p 99 /dev/zram0 Run the script as root.
mkesper 3mo ago
Do not run Ubuntu on these old machines, use plain Debian instead (no fat desktop needed, no overhead due to braindead snap packaging etc.). Xfce4 should be fine. SSDs help and also using zswap to counter the low RAM. The last official install media for 32bit (first Intel Atoms) is bookworm but updating is no problem.
wegwerf17377382 3mo ago
I had Edubuntu with XFCE and Chicago95 theme on one of those until I gave it away last year. It ran Octoprint for me :)
trencedamp 3mo ago
> Still, it occurred to me that it might be fun to take the netbook completely apart and start replacing its hardware piece by piece. Is it just me or did it end on a cliffhanger? That's the last line!
Findecanor 3mo ago
The other day, I tried the latest Kubuntu on a Samsung netbook from 2011. It was impossibly slow, and Wayland did not even render colours correctly on the screen.
twic 3mo ago
Reviving? I'm still running a 2007 EeePC 1001HA on Fedora.
- cgyvbunji 3mo ago
  Yeah, installing a newer OS on an old computer you already have is a low effort blog post genre that always seems to be unreasonably popular here. Though, I don't want to hate on it per se, we all had to start somewhere.
TiredOfLife 3mo ago
The problem with installing Arch on netbooks is that Arch needs internet to install. Some of netbooks have horrendous wifi. I have a Cherry Trail tablet. It has a quite good looking 1280x800 screen. it would be great as typewriter/background video machine, but the wifi and the sd card constantly disappear and reappear.
regexorcist 3mo ago
Arch is also great for Intel macbooks around that age.
UncleSlacky 3mo ago
You should run something like Void, Alpine or antiX on these. HaikuOS also runs really well on them if you don't need actual Linux.
hamper653 3mo ago
OpenBSD can do wonders on a machine like this.
- SoftTalker 3mo ago
  Maybe. Current OpenBSD is a bit more demanding on RAM and disk space, like everything else. But if you took a release from 10 years ago (if you can find one) it might do very well. You could try to install a stripped-down OpenBSD but you'll find very little help if something doesn't work. "You didn't install the full OS, you're on your own" is the response you'd be most likely to get.
emanueleielo 3mo ago
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bArray 3mo ago
> I did not expect much, and because the bottlenecks were the HDD and CPU I did not feel any noticeable performance improvement. Still, it occurred to me that it might be fun to take the netbook completely apart and start replacing its hardware piece by piece. I would look at swapping out the HDD for something solid state - lighter, less power, higher performance for random R/W. Then it's just a case of lightening the load of the CPU as much as possible, strip out everything that is not needed. I've run modern Firefox on much lighter devices. One of my netbooks is the same spec as this, and I do browsing + coding on it easily.
bdcravens 3mo ago
> I could not remember whether the machine had gotten even slower, or whether it had always been like this and I had once thought even this was fast. In addition to the usual suspects (aging hardware, planned obsolescence, bad memories), I wonder how much CPU is burned by software trying to talk to long dead backends and the retry loops and errors that occur as a result.
lizardking 3mo ago
This machine is a good candidate for Damn Small Linux. I've put DSL on much older machines with a full snappy GUI experience.
93n 3mo ago
I still run, and am writing this from, a 16-or-17 year old Dell E6510 (i5-540) that serves as my "around the house" computer. The battery life (with a huge 9 cell that protrudes out the back) isn't great, and it's hot and heavy, but with 8GiB of RAM and an SSD it works pretty well on Trixie with Cinnamon. My main machine is a 13 year old Lenovo y510p running Debian and KDE. You'd be hard-pressed to tell that it's anywhere near that age. The only aspect that has been annoying with both is graphics. Both machines are nvidia and are long past their support periods. The y510p has SLI (one graphics card is in the CD drive slot) which never worked on Linux. When removing the second card, the on-processor Intel graphics can be used, which have better support than nvidia, so I stick with that. I don't do anything graphics intensive anyway. The biggest upgrade with old computers, without any doubt, is an SSD. I still remember getting my first one back in about 2011, a used 60GiB OCZ Vertex, and it was truly magic seeing the computer boot to the desktop in a few seconds even on a core 2 duo.
- ColdStream 3mo ago
  I am in the same boat as you. I run a T400 from 2009. It would have been fairly high end for the time (2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM) and I think that is why it has held up so well. As now, there is a very wide performance profile for machines around then. From sub Ghz Celerons up to 3Ghz plus dual core things.
  - 93n 3mo ago
    I'd expect your T400 is similar to my E6510 in terms of construction since they're both business machines from the same era. The E6510 is a tank. The hinges are still solid and there's no wear on the keyboard. There's a single panel, held on by just a single screw, that pops off on the bottom to expose the majority of user-replaceable parts. It'd be useless with Windows, but works great with Linux. The only issue I have is severe lag on google maps.
  - 93n 3mo ago
    Tangentially, my home server is a slightly newer NUC with a toy of a celeron N3050. That runs great for the overwhelming majority of use cases, too. The only obviously slow operations are anything heavily CPU-bound, like compiling (esphome) and photo indexing (photoprism). In the latter case, I run it at night on a cron, so it's not really an issue in practice.
alexpotato 3mo ago
One use of these old laptop/netbooks is to have an always on server that can even survive a power outage of a couple hours (due to the onboard battery). As others have mentioned, the RAM is really low for a desktop but perfectly fine for running a FTP/File/PiHole etc and are usually more powerful than a RaspberryPi. They also have multiple USB A ports if you want to add storage, ethernet etc.
zenoprax 3mo ago
> On this netbook, which has 1GB of RAM, if you keep the swap partition small you will run into “No space left on device” errors all the time. The author doesn't explain why but I'm guessing this is because `/tmp` is filling up. Setting a quota on this mount point would help limit the impact that badly behaving programs might have on RAM usage.
lynguist 3mo ago
I don't understand the unwarranted and ongoing care and enthusiasm for this category of e-waste that was forcibly put upon us. They came out in 2008, were sold until 2010, had literally less performance than a 2000 Pentium III CPU, were lauded from pundits left and right, and probably the school/hand-me-down laptops of that age (like today's e-waste class Chromebooks). Especially when Acer and whatever had proper laptops with proper Intel SU-class CPUs and 3-4 GB RAM for the same price. I disliked these "netbooks" back then and still do, and all that followed its footsteps, including the "laptop"-lookalikes with 32 GB e-MMC storage some mobile carriers would give out with their plans. It's a disrespectful destitute class of computing. I know that the Raspberry Pis came out later, but a Raspberry Pi 2 is a hundred times better engineered and well-rounded product, that will also run a desktop better than these netbooks (or at all). On a related note, I also have colleagues at work who will run only sub-200 dollar smartphones and enjoy living the proper Nigeria/Bangladesh experience from 1-2 years ago. I also know that they don't use heating at home, and do everything in the name of efficiency.
- nunez 3mo ago
  If you needed a cheap, light laptop at the time, this was your only option. The MacBook Air came out two years later.
- hamper653 3mo ago
  It was cheap, small and light.
- greggsy 3mo ago
  The eee-pc was amazingly attractive in a time when laptops were heavy. I used to carry one in my toolbox when I worked as a network field tech.
- meristohm 3mo ago
  Do you understand the unbridled desire to consume a massive amount of resources to move a human body in a multi-ton knobby-tyred truck from home to school to work to grocery store and back, and to play the flashiest games, to wear shorts inside during the winter, and to talk to robots as if they are friends? I understand that desire, and how, with billions of people having access to such power over enough time, we are now "enjoying" extreme weather more frequently, killing so much other life with our pollution, and harming ourselves in the process? And, because that is stressful to face, many of us are inclined to dive back into the consumption cycle for distraction and diversion? I'd argue my quality of life is higher for using only hand-me-down phones (current one is ~8yo, thanks to LineageOS) because when I'm feeling dysregulated I run out of phone-based distractions really quickly (I don't allow JavaScript, and I don't install any games). I'm healthier for walking and cycling everywhere within ~16km of home (privileged to live in the city, as expensive as it has become, but I'd still do it if I lived further out), and for using heating & cooling only to take the edge off the outside temperature (16C in the winter, 26C in the summer), mindful of where all this energy comes from, what the effects are at scale, and the quality of life of future generations long after I'm dead. I don't do all this for efficiency, but for effectiveness (that of my body, my default mobility and data-processing machine) and consuming a reasonable amount of energy rather than one that, at scale, will burn my house down. Regarding not-yet e-waste, some people just like tinkering, and the challenge of getting old hardware to still function as a useful tool. I also understand the reaction to other people's "nonsense"; I sometimes go there, too, and it's an ongoing effort to reel it back to what I can reasonably control. Is it helpful to have all this spelled out for you?
nunez 3mo ago
Not directly related to the article, but I've got to give it up to Tesla for continuing to eek out every last ounce of performance from the Atoms they used for 2018-2021 Model 3 car computers. They still push updates to the UI for these cars nine years later, albeit with some stuff feature flagged out.
channel_t 3mo ago
I had one of these and loved it, taking it everywhere. I vaguely remember it running some flavor of Linux that was pretty usable at the time. Sometime in 2012 the display started having issues and then it stopped powering on shortly thereafter. I would spend the next decade trying to recreate something resembling the experience through Chromebooks but never really getting there, eventually surrendering to the 13-inch MacBook Air.
- herbst 3mo ago
  Same here! I still have it in has tiny laptop bag, back then it worked wonderfully for me as a mobile Linux development machine. I had more battery lifetime than with ANY machine after that (10+ hours screen time), but to fair I only run the bare minimum on it. However the charging broke and I never got around trying to repair it.
Nexxxeh 3mo ago
I loved my Netbook. Acer Aspire One. The early ~2008 Linux-supplied dirt cheap Acer Aspire One A110L netbooks came with small (8GB?) and horrifically slow SSDs. Back in the days of such things, we'd upgrade the RAM and use Windows XP with the write filter to make them great little machines. There was an SD card slot in the side that would happily store files. The SSDs were very limited in read-write cycles from what I remember. More noticeable they brutally slow at writing. By shoving all the writes into RAM instead of direct the SSD, everything ran more smoothly. If you wanted to keep any changes (usually due to OS or software updates) then you ran a batch file that wrote out the changes to the SSD before shutdown. Otherwise you shut the machine down and all your changes were immediately forgotten. RAM Upgrade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3WVb1dL--o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3WVb1dL--o Enhanced Write Filter: https://www.prime-expert.com/articles/a04/speeding-up-ssd-based-netbooks-and-adding-filesystem-integrity-with-ewftool/ https://www.prime-expert.com/articles/a04/speeding-up-ssd-ba... It was more than fast enough for the time, the form factor was perfect for my teenage hands (not that they're much bigger now) and it was cheap and small enough to drag everywhere with me. (I copied and pasted some of that from a previous comment of mine about it.)
ValdikSS 3mo ago
If you really want to revive the machine, here are my tips and tricks https://github.com/parksb/parksb.github.io-comments/issues/27#issuecomment-5013027978 https://github.com/parksb/parksb.github.io-comments/issues/2...
nickjj 3mo ago
I like how efficient Arch is, in the sense that you have nothing and now you get to pick and choose what you want. My main desktop I use for full time software development and video editing is from 2014. I've run Windows on it forever. I put Arch on it ~8 months ago. A full desktop environment I put together based on niri boots at 1.1 GB of memory. Every app I want is installed (tons of CLI tools, various GUI tools, Docker, video editors, browser, etc.) all together comes in at 10 GB of disk total for everything based on what `df -h` says for my root partition. My machine does have 16 GB of memory so I'm not pressed for memory, but it's nice to know the machine runs on a system designed to not be bloated. After switching from Windows 10 Pro, it felt like I got a hardware upgrade. Things open faster and generally speaking everything just feels snappier. As an aside, it was super fun spending a few days setting everything up in a repeatable way which I've now replicated on a number of systems with https://github.com/nickjj/dotfriedrice https://github.com/nickjj/dotfriedrice.
- kiddico 3mo ago
  Dotfriedrice is a great repo name
catdog 3mo ago
I owned a Samsung NC10 which had a non-shitty keyboard as its outstanding feature. Was a nice little Linux machine I used a lot. Only bad thing, those Intel Atom N2xx CPUs are just awfully slow, even back then. Today realistically I don't think it really makes that much sense to bother with those devices even for small home servers. You can e.g. get used thin clients for cheap which run circles around those old CPUs and support way more RAM while likely being as power efficient if not more. At the bare minimum I would avoid using any 32 bit x86 CPU for running anything modern, even Debian dropped official support for that architecture now.
gattilorenz 3mo ago
The Asus 1000H served me well for my whole bachelor, and also became my first hackintosh with the glorious 10.6.8, iDeneb flavor (i even bought a new wifi card natively supported by Mac OS X for that). I still have it, it still holds a charge. Amazing little machine, portability and usage time were really top notch (not so the performance, but I was patient, and even used it for Sketchup and Illustrator)

230 points by parksb 3mo ago

The article just sort of stops. Was the ram upgrade helpful? How was the mouse - was it choppy like in Windows XP as discussed at the top of the article? (And whatever happened to twm, possibly the lightest window manager around?)

bcraven 3mo ago
"I did not expect much, and because the bottlenecks were the HDD and CPU I did not feel any noticeable performance improvement." Sounds like it started on XP running poorly, and ended on Arch... running poorly.
DiggyJohnson 3mo ago
would love to see twm get active again as well
- 2b3a51 3mo ago
  Have a look at MWM (Motif Window Manager). Colour icons (gasp) and windows that actually maximise. Packaged in Debian so I suppose around in Arch repositories somewhere.
  - DiggyJohnson 2mo ago
    Thanks!
2b3a51 3mo ago
twm still around but might be a separate package these days and not in X11 core. CWM (Calm Window Manager) from OpenBSD is available in portable form and packaged for Debian. Very light and good for tiny screens (little decoration).

MarioMan 3mo ago

I did the same thing with my netbook 4 years ago, but I went with Debian instead to make my life a bit easier. It was, at the time, one of a small number of distros that still officially supported x86 32-bit binaries. The challenges came from tracking down working Wi-Fi drivers for the proprietary hardware and updating the BIOS, since the stock version has a bug where it emits lid close events that Windows XP ignores but Linux dutifully handles.

serious_angel 3mo ago

The Community behind the marvelous project as ArchLinux32, are ineffably awesome... The project provide various options, including i496, i696, and pentium4 architectures with or without PAE requirements. The OS comes with pre-configured systemd, and supports numerous up-to-date repositories out-of-the-box. Some relatively lightweight custom window manager like Awesome or i3wm may also shape the environment if X required. Apparently, I do still have a few photos in backups of someone's own enchanted marvel of a portal to universes powered by a Celeron D, USB pen-drive of 16 GiB, a single RAM of 1 GiB, we all managed to acquire and built, for such a short time we had! Preview of the device: https://imgur.com/gallery/h1tWKp3 https://imgur.com/gallery/h1tWKp3 Since the CPU had no physical address extension (PAE) to electrify a more common OS, and something customary was required for the limited resources, where we chose ArchLinux 32-bit (now ArchLinux32, indeed) and arranged a custom AwesomeWM environment visually suggesting a console design just for it! And dear... we adventured a few nights back then backed by this machine and some self-compiled emulation software, ZSnes and Gens, for the titles she had collected from a few local stores and magazines! It was quite long ago... more than a decade and half... but it like all happened just yesterday, and how freaking awesome it was! You likely had a similar event/memory! Please do remember these... Related: https://www.archlinux32.org/architecture/ https://www.archlinux32.org/architecture/ (The below table lists the compatibility of CPUs (identified by their available flags) with architectures...)

tommica 3mo ago
Beautiful little box!
anthk 3mo ago
For SNES I'd use Mednafen with the snes_faust core; and for difficult games to emulate I'd use the snes core. Also Mednafen works for MD/NES/GB/GBA/NGP and tons more systems. PCSX-PGXP runs really well too, forget PGXP on that machine but at low resolution games will run fine with a simple bilinear filter. Parasiteve Eve can be damn addictive ;) Also, text adventure games; a good one with a great history such Tristam Island it's fine too. Also, compile Scummvm with these options from git (pacman -S scummvm, check the dependencies; run pacman -R scummvm later), then compile it with these options: #!/bin/sh export CC="clang" export CXX="clang++" export CXXFLAGS="-fpermissive -fcommon" export LDFLAGS="-Wl,-z,muldefs" export LANG=C make clean -j4 env CC="clang" CXX="clang++" sh configure \ --enable-static \ --enable-all-engines \ --enable-all-unstable-engines \ --enable-release \ --enable-plugins \ --disable-hq-scalers \ --disable-dlc \ --disable-scummvmdlc \ --disable-discord make CC="ccache clang" CXX="ccache clang++" LDFLAGS+="-Wl,-z,muldefs"

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tommica 3mo ago

Had a few Eee machines back in the day, loved them a lot. Crazy to see them in the current time being revived.

trelane 3mo ago

I really miss netbooks. They were an amazing moment for Linux. No surprise Microsoft killed them.

internet2000 3mo ago
Netbooks didn’t need Microsoft’s help in dying. Nobody bought more than one of them, the experience was that bad.
- DANmode 3mo ago
  It’s much like today’s mobile experience. Most people fall for marketing, do no deep research or consideration of their needs, and have a piss-poor time. But some did the reading: Ubuntu on the Dell Mini 9, for example, was a dreamboat!, with or without touchscreen mod.
- trelane 3mo ago
  > Netbooks didn’t need Microsoft’s help in dying. Amazing how many of Microsoft's competitors don't need the help, yet receive it. > Nobody bought more than one of them, the experience was that bad. https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/netbook-sales-exploded-in-2008-dell-not-responsible/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/netbook-sales-exploded-i... "The market for small and cheap laptops -- netbooks -- boomed in 2008, with almost 15 million of the things sold globally." On the contrary, they were incredibly popular.
  - tmp10423288442 3mo ago
    Yes, they seemed like a good idea - they were really cheap, and had decent battery life for the time - but the compromises were such that you really wouldn’t want to buy another netbook if you could. After the first few releases, the MacBook Air became what the non-cheapskate buyers of netbooks wanted.
    - trelane 3mo ago
      > compromises were such that you really wouldn’t want to buy another netbook if you could. This is directly contradicted by the existence of Netbook fans.

achairapart 3mo ago

I have one of these in a closet and wondered for years about how to turn it in a distraction free word processor/simple digital typewriter. Always loved the netbook form factor, and they were cheap! Funny thing is that probably I also have some 2GB DDR2 stick somewhere. Last thing I need to check for is the battery, I presume it is completely down after all those years. Anyway, this article will be very handy for this side project. Thank you!

atoav 3mo ago
I would say, you install a lightweight Linux, boot directly into your favorite distraction free editor at full screen and sync the files back to phone and big computer via something like syncthing/Nextcloud/etc. As for which editor that is, it depends a little bit on your needs, but there are ones specifically geared towards being distraction free like https://ghostwriter.kde.org/ https://ghostwriter.kde.org/ Although markdown may not be what you're after. I personally consider formatting another form of distraction, ao this would be a plus for me. But if you write math-heavy papers, going with something else like Typst or LATeX may be a better choice.
- achairapart 3mo ago
  Thanks! Ghostwriter is a really good candidate. I mostly use iA Writer on my mac and they seem to share the same philosophy.
pjerem 3mo ago
I'd install HaikuOS on it.
drdexebtjl 3mo ago
I tried this a while back. The main problem was that their keyboards are usually terrible.
marttt 3mo ago
Re: distraction free writing machine -- another option would be a FreeDOS/SvarDOS-based system: https://www.theregister.com/software/2025/04/26/build-your-own-antisocial-writing-rig-with-dos-and-a-usb-key/807864 https://www.theregister.com/software/2025/04/26/build-your-o... No kidding. Lots of fun to see a system actually boot in about 1 second. That aside, I've installed all kinds of systems on my trusty 2009 Dell Mini 9, a fanless netbook. For years, this was a CLI-only Tiny Core Linux system, currently running SvarDOS. While on Linux, I even used it to live record 1,5-hour long radio shows via an old Mbox2 audio interface and some CLI recording software. Created a huge ramdisk just in case, but everything went well. Netbooks are weird and interesting machines.

drdexebtjl 3mo ago

These 2008-2010 era netbooks are impossible to use as a desktop. They were already painfully slow when they were new, so much so that OEMs shipped them dual booting a stripped down OS. I had an HP Mini. It had a weird 1024x600 display panel, and a lot of applications expect you to have at least 1024x768. Sometimes apps would work fine until they opened a modal that was just a bit too tall, and you had to pray that Enter or Escape did something reasonable. A few years ago I installed Debian, qBittorrent and Samba. I figured it could handle something IO-bound. I ran it for a couple of years and then recycled it when my Internet got faster than the 100 Mbps ethernet card. A tip if you have one of those laying around and it always ran a 32-bit OS is to check if the CPU is really 32-bit only. Only the very first Atom generation was 32-bit, but the next generations had poor 64-bit driver support on Windows, so OEMs shipped it as a 32-bit machine. Not the case for OP’s netbook, theirs is really 32-bit only.

bee_rider 3mo ago
I had a Toshiba NB305, which apparently had an Atom N450 (just looking at some old reviews, I don’t have it running anymore). It seemed fine for basic command line stuff and some web browsing (websites already had too much JavaScript at the time but at least you could usually get away with turning it off without losing any essential functionality). It was by far my favorite laptop I’ve ever had. I put an SSD in it, though, which made a pretty huge difference.
andai 3mo ago
> Sometimes apps would work fine until they opened a modal that was just a bit too tall, and you had to pray that Enter or Escape did something reasonable. Do you mean that the titlebar would be off screen so you couldn't move/close the window? https://xkcd.com/1479/ https://xkcd.com/1479/ On the Xfce desktop at least there's a nice shortcut, alt+drag with left mouse button to move any window, and alt+drag with right mouse button to resize it. That's honestly the Linux thing I miss most when using any other OS.
- littlecranky67 3mo ago
  I use bettertouchtool on macos to replicate exactly that behavior (and many more).

mintflow 3mo ago

Linux can really unlock old hardware well, and glad it work great on 32bit systems Recently retired my pc with fx6300 because it take too much desktop space; and just setup a mini pc with j6412, also installed arch Linux, i3wm for desktop stuffs Also find a old usb Bluetooth receiver make it play some music It works great and use this new setup to get a Agent free experience

andai 3mo ago
What's the last part referring to? Isn't all Linux agent free by definition? Or do you mean, compared to windows? I am running agents on my ten year old ThinkPad T460. I gave them their own user account, to limit blast radius, but I haven't had any issues with them nuking things yet. (Except for my code quality...) Well, maybe my API keys with $5 credit have been exfiltrated though. The world may never know :)

codelion 3mo ago

I use a 2010 Macbook Air with Linux XFCE desktop and it works well for browsing and simple office work.

stasiu 3mo ago

This brings back memories. I loved my Asus Eee PC 1215p. Bought it with my own money. It was the computer I had when I was moving out of my parental home when I was 20 y/o. When I moved out I had Ubuntu installed on it, but in my student room I realised I had issues with connecting to the internet somehow. Went back to my moms and installed back Windows 7, with the Windows 98 look-and-feel-setting which was a built in option, great user experience. The last Windows machine I even used, but it was amazing. I brought it with me on my hitch hiking adventures through Europe, was using it to DJ using my personal iTunes library in a Polish hippie/hacker/eco village I was staying at. Eventually I stupidly broke the keyboard my cleaning it with a wet towel when it was on, I still feel bad about that really. What a machine, I absolutely loved it!

iammjm 3mo ago
I too had it and remember it fondly, it got me through my studies. Very portable machine. I eventually swapped it for a thinkpad which I loved even more. Now I’m with a MacBook Air for the time being, but I think I’ll get another thinkpad when the time comes
- stasiu 3mo ago
  After this Eee PC I bought a 2014 MacBook Pro, again amazing machine. Used it through out my CS studies and beyond. After that I had some different machines from my employers but my personal laptop is a ThinkPad t480s, nice machine for Linux.
- jambalaya8 3mo ago
  I miss the form factor of the old netbooks. The 2gb swappable to generally up to 4gb ram was really never great, though was fine with linux as long as you set your swap partition up correctly, though I wouldn't be expecting much in the way of running things like virtualbox or any modern IDE. The 32bit support only was fine then, not now (and with only 2-4gb ram, you didn't want 64bit anyway). Perfectly adequate for most web dev, scripting, blogging, chatting, network stuff, remote systems administration, etc. The old netbooks took handling less carefully much more well than anything now other than probably an Apple laptop (I mean, if it fell, odds are it wouldn't break as easily; the ones with hard drives, maybe not as well, but it took more than once; talking the screen and keyboard). I imagine this is why you liked it. Easy to backpack with. They were also great for running out for coffee and working without schlepping a full-sized laptop. I mean the ones with hard drives, not the ones with teeny tiny ssd's. Hard to do much on those, and slower. Is crunchbang still around?

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ezst 3mo ago

Did my whole engineering curriculum as my single computer, ran MATLAB and other JVM GUIs/IDEs on 1GB RAM/Atom N450. The build and display were horrendous, but that was a good companion to take notes during lectures and in the lab.

embedding-shape 3mo ago
Similarly, I was hacking on a tiny netbook before I was a professional programmer, everything about it was awful, the keyboard was Norwegian and it was missing some keys, but eventually I managed to build up enough of a portfolio with it that I got my first internship and eventually got hired. Old photo (2013) of it, running Kubuntu (Xubuntu maybe even?) at this point I think: https://i.imgur.com/1NRIZrg.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/1NRIZrg.jpeg
- ezst 3mo ago
  Haha, same vibe! Mine was running mandrake/mandriva + kde. Also programming on such a low specced device gave a superpower (and good coding hygiene): you would immediately spot memleaks and inefficient code because you would feel it as entire seconds of slowness and unresponsiveness. Like, none of my GUI apps had work happening on the event thread, but I could immediately tell which ones would.
- ramgine 3mo ago
  Unrelated to your post (I missed those form factors) but has imgur become enshittified too? If I try to zoom in on your picture it gives me a popup I can’t clear telling me to install the app. Sad.

cjfd 3mo ago

I kept my old laptop (bought in 2007) alive for quite a while too. But last year I finally retired it. I also used archlinux 32 which worked fine for a while. But at some point the breakages really got too bad. I was using xfce4. For a while the xfce4-terminal was broken and would not start. That has the easy workaround of using xterm instead. But there were more breakages and it just started taking too much time. Quite a bit of software is ditching, or has ditched, 32-bit support.

jbl0ndie 3mo ago

I bought a subsidised Windows EeePC 901 and stuck Ubuntu Netbook Remix on it. Much more useable. Windows was laughably bad. It limited the number of open applications! There was also a EeePC specific https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyPeasy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyPeasy which was even better. Since then I have installed various things for amusement, including a cut down Chromebook OS and the OLPC Linux. The limit was always the tiny root partition (4GB SSD). I had some limited success joining with the second SSD (16GB) using btrfs. I think the albeit tiny SSD was this machine's saving grace compared to HDD models, in terms of speed.

teekert 3mo ago

I would still be using my 1000HE if the mouse and power buttons hadn’t stopped working (would have put an ssd in it then). Sure the keyboard keys are a bit wobbly but otherwise I really loved that machine. Nice form factor. Would love to be able to get a new 400$-ish 10-11” netbook with 6+ hour battery that would fly with some minimal Linux. Recommendations?

alterom 3mo ago
I had the 1000HE too, and ran everything from LaTeX to DAWs on it. The only serious contender in that category now IMO is Chuwi Minibook X.
internet2000 3mo ago
Compromise a little bit on the size (but not much, considering bezels!) and $~400 gets you a 100x better computer https://www.ebay.com/itm/145639218896 https://www.ebay.com/itm/145639218896

all2 3mo ago

My current laptop is a 15 year old freebie from work. It does everything I need it to. Except for run all the boosted agent frameworks. It chokes on open code, Claude Code, I don't dare try codex.

applfanboysbgon 3mo ago
Codex CLI is written in Rust and significantly more efficient than Claude Code. I had no trouble running it on a 2012 laptop. VSCode/standard browsers were the main problem software, as one would expect.
- tmp10423288442 3mo ago
  And you can remote control it from the Codex Desktop app (now the new ChatGPT app) or from the ChatGPT mobile app.

neuropacabra 3mo ago

It was Acer EEE 1000HA (very similar to the one from this article) which made me to use Linux. Eventually even a new one under XP was terribly slow. To that moment I was quite enjoying Windows but this device opened a door into computers for me. I never used Windows again and learned a ton by building GMA950 drivers as they were not shipped with Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron (omg). On one had terrible device on other hand I guess I wouldn’t start using Linux/macos and learned how to code. So lucky device, I guess?

alterom 3mo ago
Asus, not Acer :) They pioneered the netbook with the EeePC line. Sadly, they didn't keep it alive.

globular-toast 3mo ago

I have a 17 year old Dell Mini 9 that's never seen Windows in its life. Was one of the first laptops I could find that didn't have the Windows tax. I put Gentoo on it several years ago, which took a few days, I wonder if the binaries come in 32 bit nowadays. While most things ran absolutely fine, Firefox ran like crap, which really makes you realise how awful the modern web is. When I got the netbook I had dreams of hacking in Emacs wherever I went. The tiny keyboard makes that quite uncomfortable, though. So it was only really used as a music player and web browser while traveling a few times, basically what you'd use a phone for today.

microtonal 3mo ago
Was one of the first laptops I could find that didn't have the Windows tax. In the early/mid 2000s, we used to buy computers, install Linux and then ask Dell etc. to refund the Windows license, which often worked. My girlfriend at the time got a Dell desktop really cheap that way. IIRC it cost something like 400 or 500 Euro and Dell refunded ~100 Euro for not using the Windows license. I never really understood the economics, because installing Windows was probably profitable for them due to the adware shipped with Windows. Probably it was easier/better for them to just give a refund to noisy Linux users than to admit that they were making big bucks on all the crap shipped with the Windows installation. As an aside, at the time a lot of HP laptops could be purchased with FreeDOS and I think Lenovo was similar.

b800h 3mo ago

I loved my Eee PC - I'd use it to program on the bus, train, or on a plane, but for me they were killed off by a combination of smartphones, and getting a driving license. Some years back I bought a new battery for mine, and reinstalled Linux, but I just couldn't find a use for it.

MayeulC 3mo ago

I still use my Samsung n130, though I went with Alpine after Arch dropped support for 32 bit (there were a few pain points with Arch 32 in the early days, I tried guix but it was too slow and guix uses a lot of RAM during updates). It works decently, is sufficient for ssh-ing into other hosts. Though web browsing is a pain. I used to mostly use Dillo and elinks, MPV+yt-dlp for videos. Unfortunately I left it sit for a bit too long and the battery is dead now. I'm thinking of fixing it and upgrading the power port to USB-C. Sometimes I also think about building a compute module-based motherboard for it. There were interesting bits in the setup (blacklisting defective RAM addresses for instance), maybe I should make a short writeup :)

SuspectTurtle 3mo ago
I am very attached to my n130 and still use it daily. I'm still running Debian 12 because they dropped 32bit support for 13. Coupled with i3 window manager and i get by with it. If you do attempt a USB-C mod let me know how it goes! It's something I've also considered.
- MayeulC 3mo ago
  Sure! I ordered the necessary part years ago, but didn't get around to do it yet. Having someone else interested may finally motivate me. Please leave some contact info on your HN profile (or use mine), so that I can let you know.
  - SuspectTurtle 2mo ago
    I actually created an account just to reply to your comment because I was so excited to see another N130 user. I'll be sure to fill out my profile at some point

ocd 3mo ago

I guess there aren't that many options anymore for x86, but for really old amd64 I've been using Void Linux recently. It's not too bad even for non-technical users if they're provided an alias/function file to source in shell (with obvious naming conventions like "upgrade" or something.)

jordand 3mo ago

I tried reviving my Asus Eee PC 1015PEM (1.5GHz dual core, 2GB RAM) and even running Linux Mint was a bit much for it (basic tasks were slow, and Wine had too much overhead for games). I initially tried upgrading the Windows 7 Starter to Windows 10, and while the upgrade did work...it was failing to even log in! Whole thing just seemed stalled.

anthk 3mo ago
For games Mednafen and PCSXR do wonders; and SCummvm itself supports tons of graphical and text adventures (even modern ones such as Technobabylon) and tons of source ports (and recompilations such as Super Mario 64) will run fine with just the bundled GL 2.1 adapter. Instead of Mint I'd pick something like Alpine Linux with LXQT: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/LXQt https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/LXQt Also, adding ZRAM will fly on that machine. Also, you can build SCUMMVM (install alpine-sdk, get the alpine ports and edit the pkg build file so scummvm gets compiled with these options at the configure build stage: #!/bin/sh sh configure \ --enable-static \ --enable-all-engines \ --enable-all-unstable-engines \ --enable-release \ --enable-plugins \ --disable-hq-scalers \ --disable-dlc \ --disable-scummvmdlc \ --disable-discord With these options even Macromedia Director stuff will run (maybe Encarta 95 and the like) and modern games such as Technobabylon, Thimbleweed Park and so on.
- Narishma 3mo ago
  Zswap is better than ZRAM for this use case. ZRAM is only really interesting in situations where you don't want any swap to disk, like when running on an SD card or something.
lproven 3mo ago
You went the wrong direction. Go older, not newer. After trying dozens of lightweight Linuxes with disappointing results, I downgraded my Sony Vaio P to WinXP. This has full GPU acceleration on Intel Pouslbo and for XP the machine's 2GB of RAM is spacious. Sad, but there we are.
Narishma 3mo ago

wazoox 3mo ago

I think Slackware would have been a good fit, and much easier to install :)

lproven 3mo ago
Nah. Alpine, or TinyCore. Much smaller: Slackware is biiiiig.
- prmoustache 3mo ago
  Honestly netbsd is usually my os of choice in that kind of projects.

shlokkshahh 3mo ago

ya all should i get arch?

anthk 3mo ago

Add zram: #!/bin/sh modprobe zram if [ -e /dev/zram0 ] then echo "zram0 on" exit 1 fi zramctl --find --size 512M mkswap /dev/zram0 swapon -p 99 /dev/zram0 Run the script as root.

mkesper 3mo ago

Do not run Ubuntu on these old machines, use plain Debian instead (no fat desktop needed, no overhead due to braindead snap packaging etc.). Xfce4 should be fine. SSDs help and also using zswap to counter the low RAM. The last official install media for 32bit (first Intel Atoms) is bookworm but updating is no problem.

wegwerf17377382 3mo ago

I had Edubuntu with XFCE and Chicago95 theme on one of those until I gave it away last year. It ran Octoprint for me :)

trencedamp 3mo ago

> Still, it occurred to me that it might be fun to take the netbook completely apart and start replacing its hardware piece by piece. Is it just me or did it end on a cliffhanger? That's the last line!

Findecanor 3mo ago

The other day, I tried the latest Kubuntu on a Samsung netbook from 2011. It was impossibly slow, and Wayland did not even render colours correctly on the screen.

twic 3mo ago

Reviving? I'm still running a 2007 EeePC 1001HA on Fedora.

cgyvbunji 3mo ago
Yeah, installing a newer OS on an old computer you already have is a low effort blog post genre that always seems to be unreasonably popular here. Though, I don't want to hate on it per se, we all had to start somewhere.

TiredOfLife 3mo ago

The problem with installing Arch on netbooks is that Arch needs internet to install. Some of netbooks have horrendous wifi. I have a Cherry Trail tablet. It has a quite good looking 1280x800 screen. it would be great as typewriter/background video machine, but the wifi and the sd card constantly disappear and reappear.

regexorcist 3mo ago

Arch is also great for Intel macbooks around that age.

UncleSlacky 3mo ago

You should run something like Void, Alpine or antiX on these. HaikuOS also runs really well on them if you don't need actual Linux.

hamper653 3mo ago

OpenBSD can do wonders on a machine like this.

SoftTalker 3mo ago
Maybe. Current OpenBSD is a bit more demanding on RAM and disk space, like everything else. But if you took a release from 10 years ago (if you can find one) it might do very well. You could try to install a stripped-down OpenBSD but you'll find very little help if something doesn't work. "You didn't install the full OS, you're on your own" is the response you'd be most likely to get.

emanueleielo 3mo ago

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bArray 3mo ago

> I did not expect much, and because the bottlenecks were the HDD and CPU I did not feel any noticeable performance improvement. Still, it occurred to me that it might be fun to take the netbook completely apart and start replacing its hardware piece by piece. I would look at swapping out the HDD for something solid state - lighter, less power, higher performance for random R/W. Then it's just a case of lightening the load of the CPU as much as possible, strip out everything that is not needed. I've run modern Firefox on much lighter devices. One of my netbooks is the same spec as this, and I do browsing + coding on it easily.

bdcravens 3mo ago

> I could not remember whether the machine had gotten even slower, or whether it had always been like this and I had once thought even this was fast. In addition to the usual suspects (aging hardware, planned obsolescence, bad memories), I wonder how much CPU is burned by software trying to talk to long dead backends and the retry loops and errors that occur as a result.

lizardking 3mo ago

This machine is a good candidate for Damn Small Linux. I've put DSL on much older machines with a full snappy GUI experience.

93n 3mo ago

I still run, and am writing this from, a 16-or-17 year old Dell E6510 (i5-540) that serves as my "around the house" computer. The battery life (with a huge 9 cell that protrudes out the back) isn't great, and it's hot and heavy, but with 8GiB of RAM and an SSD it works pretty well on Trixie with Cinnamon. My main machine is a 13 year old Lenovo y510p running Debian and KDE. You'd be hard-pressed to tell that it's anywhere near that age. The only aspect that has been annoying with both is graphics. Both machines are nvidia and are long past their support periods. The y510p has SLI (one graphics card is in the CD drive slot) which never worked on Linux. When removing the second card, the on-processor Intel graphics can be used, which have better support than nvidia, so I stick with that. I don't do anything graphics intensive anyway. The biggest upgrade with old computers, without any doubt, is an SSD. I still remember getting my first one back in about 2011, a used 60GiB OCZ Vertex, and it was truly magic seeing the computer boot to the desktop in a few seconds even on a core 2 duo.

ColdStream 3mo ago
I am in the same boat as you. I run a T400 from 2009. It would have been fairly high end for the time (2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM) and I think that is why it has held up so well. As now, there is a very wide performance profile for machines around then. From sub Ghz Celerons up to 3Ghz plus dual core things.
- 93n 3mo ago
  I'd expect your T400 is similar to my E6510 in terms of construction since they're both business machines from the same era. The E6510 is a tank. The hinges are still solid and there's no wear on the keyboard. There's a single panel, held on by just a single screw, that pops off on the bottom to expose the majority of user-replaceable parts. It'd be useless with Windows, but works great with Linux. The only issue I have is severe lag on google maps.
- 93n 3mo ago
  Tangentially, my home server is a slightly newer NUC with a toy of a celeron N3050. That runs great for the overwhelming majority of use cases, too. The only obviously slow operations are anything heavily CPU-bound, like compiling (esphome) and photo indexing (photoprism). In the latter case, I run it at night on a cron, so it's not really an issue in practice.

alexpotato 3mo ago

One use of these old laptop/netbooks is to have an always on server that can even survive a power outage of a couple hours (due to the onboard battery). As others have mentioned, the RAM is really low for a desktop but perfectly fine for running a FTP/File/PiHole etc and are usually more powerful than a RaspberryPi. They also have multiple USB A ports if you want to add storage, ethernet etc.

zenoprax 3mo ago

> On this netbook, which has 1GB of RAM, if you keep the swap partition small you will run into “No space left on device” errors all the time. The author doesn't explain why but I'm guessing this is because `/tmp` is filling up. Setting a quota on this mount point would help limit the impact that badly behaving programs might have on RAM usage.

lynguist 3mo ago

I don't understand the unwarranted and ongoing care and enthusiasm for this category of e-waste that was forcibly put upon us. They came out in 2008, were sold until 2010, had literally less performance than a 2000 Pentium III CPU, were lauded from pundits left and right, and probably the school/hand-me-down laptops of that age (like today's e-waste class Chromebooks). Especially when Acer and whatever had proper laptops with proper Intel SU-class CPUs and 3-4 GB RAM for the same price. I disliked these "netbooks" back then and still do, and all that followed its footsteps, including the "laptop"-lookalikes with 32 GB e-MMC storage some mobile carriers would give out with their plans. It's a disrespectful destitute class of computing. I know that the Raspberry Pis came out later, but a Raspberry Pi 2 is a hundred times better engineered and well-rounded product, that will also run a desktop better than these netbooks (or at all). On a related note, I also have colleagues at work who will run only sub-200 dollar smartphones and enjoy living the proper Nigeria/Bangladesh experience from 1-2 years ago. I also know that they don't use heating at home, and do everything in the name of efficiency.

nunez 3mo ago
If you needed a cheap, light laptop at the time, this was your only option. The MacBook Air came out two years later.
hamper653 3mo ago
It was cheap, small and light.
greggsy 3mo ago
The eee-pc was amazingly attractive in a time when laptops were heavy. I used to carry one in my toolbox when I worked as a network field tech.
meristohm 3mo ago
Do you understand the unbridled desire to consume a massive amount of resources to move a human body in a multi-ton knobby-tyred truck from home to school to work to grocery store and back, and to play the flashiest games, to wear shorts inside during the winter, and to talk to robots as if they are friends? I understand that desire, and how, with billions of people having access to such power over enough time, we are now "enjoying" extreme weather more frequently, killing so much other life with our pollution, and harming ourselves in the process? And, because that is stressful to face, many of us are inclined to dive back into the consumption cycle for distraction and diversion? I'd argue my quality of life is higher for using only hand-me-down phones (current one is ~8yo, thanks to LineageOS) because when I'm feeling dysregulated I run out of phone-based distractions really quickly (I don't allow JavaScript, and I don't install any games). I'm healthier for walking and cycling everywhere within ~16km of home (privileged to live in the city, as expensive as it has become, but I'd still do it if I lived further out), and for using heating & cooling only to take the edge off the outside temperature (16C in the winter, 26C in the summer), mindful of where all this energy comes from, what the effects are at scale, and the quality of life of future generations long after I'm dead. I don't do all this for efficiency, but for effectiveness (that of my body, my default mobility and data-processing machine) and consuming a reasonable amount of energy rather than one that, at scale, will burn my house down. Regarding not-yet e-waste, some people just like tinkering, and the challenge of getting old hardware to still function as a useful tool. I also understand the reaction to other people's "nonsense"; I sometimes go there, too, and it's an ongoing effort to reel it back to what I can reasonably control. Is it helpful to have all this spelled out for you?

nunez 3mo ago

Not directly related to the article, but I've got to give it up to Tesla for continuing to eek out every last ounce of performance from the Atoms they used for 2018-2021 Model 3 car computers. They still push updates to the UI for these cars nine years later, albeit with some stuff feature flagged out.

channel_t 3mo ago

I had one of these and loved it, taking it everywhere. I vaguely remember it running some flavor of Linux that was pretty usable at the time. Sometime in 2012 the display started having issues and then it stopped powering on shortly thereafter. I would spend the next decade trying to recreate something resembling the experience through Chromebooks but never really getting there, eventually surrendering to the 13-inch MacBook Air.

herbst 3mo ago
Same here! I still have it in has tiny laptop bag, back then it worked wonderfully for me as a mobile Linux development machine. I had more battery lifetime than with ANY machine after that (10+ hours screen time), but to fair I only run the bare minimum on it. However the charging broke and I never got around trying to repair it.

Nexxxeh 3mo ago

I loved my Netbook. Acer Aspire One. The early ~2008 Linux-supplied dirt cheap Acer Aspire One A110L netbooks came with small (8GB?) and horrifically slow SSDs. Back in the days of such things, we'd upgrade the RAM and use Windows XP with the write filter to make them great little machines. There was an SD card slot in the side that would happily store files. The SSDs were very limited in read-write cycles from what I remember. More noticeable they brutally slow at writing. By shoving all the writes into RAM instead of direct the SSD, everything ran more smoothly. If you wanted to keep any changes (usually due to OS or software updates) then you ran a batch file that wrote out the changes to the SSD before shutdown. Otherwise you shut the machine down and all your changes were immediately forgotten. RAM Upgrade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3WVb1dL--o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3WVb1dL--o Enhanced Write Filter: https://www.prime-expert.com/articles/a04/speeding-up-ssd-based-netbooks-and-adding-filesystem-integrity-with-ewftool/ https://www.prime-expert.com/articles/a04/speeding-up-ssd-ba... It was more than fast enough for the time, the form factor was perfect for my teenage hands (not that they're much bigger now) and it was cheap and small enough to drag everywhere with me. (I copied and pasted some of that from a previous comment of mine about it.)

ValdikSS 3mo ago

If you really want to revive the machine, here are my tips and tricks https://github.com/parksb/parksb.github.io-comments/issues/27#issuecomment-5013027978 https://github.com/parksb/parksb.github.io-comments/issues/2...

nickjj 3mo ago

I like how efficient Arch is, in the sense that you have nothing and now you get to pick and choose what you want. My main desktop I use for full time software development and video editing is from 2014. I've run Windows on it forever. I put Arch on it ~8 months ago. A full desktop environment I put together based on niri boots at 1.1 GB of memory. Every app I want is installed (tons of CLI tools, various GUI tools, Docker, video editors, browser, etc.) all together comes in at 10 GB of disk total for everything based on what `df -h` says for my root partition. My machine does have 16 GB of memory so I'm not pressed for memory, but it's nice to know the machine runs on a system designed to not be bloated. After switching from Windows 10 Pro, it felt like I got a hardware upgrade. Things open faster and generally speaking everything just feels snappier. As an aside, it was super fun spending a few days setting everything up in a repeatable way which I've now replicated on a number of systems with https://github.com/nickjj/dotfriedrice https://github.com/nickjj/dotfriedrice.

kiddico 3mo ago
Dotfriedrice is a great repo name

catdog 3mo ago

I owned a Samsung NC10 which had a non-shitty keyboard as its outstanding feature. Was a nice little Linux machine I used a lot. Only bad thing, those Intel Atom N2xx CPUs are just awfully slow, even back then. Today realistically I don't think it really makes that much sense to bother with those devices even for small home servers. You can e.g. get used thin clients for cheap which run circles around those old CPUs and support way more RAM while likely being as power efficient if not more. At the bare minimum I would avoid using any 32 bit x86 CPU for running anything modern, even Debian dropped official support for that architecture now.

gattilorenz 3mo ago

The Asus 1000H served me well for my whole bachelor, and also became my first hackintosh with the glorious 10.6.8, iDeneb flavor (i even bought a new wifi card natively supported by Mac OS X for that). I still have it, it still holds a charge. Amazing little machine, portability and usage time were really top notch (not so the performance, but I was patient, and even used it for Sketchup and Illustrator)