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>owners of the machine have no need to keep you alive And what reason do they have for killing everyone else? Where is this abject nonsense even coming from? Y

>owners of the machine have no need to keep you alive And what reason do they have for killing everyone else? Where is this abject nonsense even coming from? You can't just assert that the "owners of the machine" are all cartoonishly evil for some unknown reason. All else being equal, at least Sam Altman et al. aren't constantly making up fantasies about exterminating people.

lelanthran 3mo ago
> And what reason do they have for killing everyone else? Who said they would kill everyone else? Since the rest of your strawmanned caricatured argument is a response to an argument never made, there's no point in addressing it.
- frozenseven 3mo ago
  Got it. You have no intention of defending what you actually said there.
  - lelanthran 3mo ago
    > Got it. You have no intention of defending what you actually said there. Who said anything about killing?
    - frozenseven 3mo ago
      What's the opposite of "keeping alive"? You've already set the scenario and power scale. Don't chicken out now. This is your sick fantasy.
ndiddy 3mo ago
Nobody's saying they'd actively round up and kill everyone, they would just have no reason to keep the "unnecessary" people alive. The elite class is generally in favor of doing things that worsen human suffering and cause additional deaths if doing so helps their financial position. See the recent cuts to SNAP and Medicaid for an example. If large swaths of the population got laid off from their jobs because they were no longer economically necessary, what incentive would the people benefiting from AI have to make a little less money in exchange for funding programs to keep the former white collar workers fed and healthy? They didn't do anything to help the former blue collar workers after they pushed for free trade deals that decimated the blue collar workforce.
- frozenseven 3mo ago
  Defunding wasteful programs that steal money from the actual working class is a good thing, actually. But that's neither here nor there, since we're talking about a world with an artificial superintelligence. That's the hypothetical here.

lelanthran 3mo ago

> And what reason do they have for killing everyone else? Who said they would kill everyone else? Since the rest of your strawmanned caricatured argument is a response to an argument never made, there's no point in addressing it.

frozenseven 3mo ago
Got it. You have no intention of defending what you actually said there.
- lelanthran 3mo ago
  > Got it. You have no intention of defending what you actually said there. Who said anything about killing?
  - frozenseven 3mo ago
    What's the opposite of "keeping alive"? You've already set the scenario and power scale. Don't chicken out now. This is your sick fantasy.

ndiddy 3mo ago

Nobody's saying they'd actively round up and kill everyone, they would just have no reason to keep the "unnecessary" people alive. The elite class is generally in favor of doing things that worsen human suffering and cause additional deaths if doing so helps their financial position. See the recent cuts to SNAP and Medicaid for an example. If large swaths of the population got laid off from their jobs because they were no longer economically necessary, what incentive would the people benefiting from AI have to make a little less money in exchange for funding programs to keep the former white collar workers fed and healthy? They didn't do anything to help the former blue collar workers after they pushed for free trade deals that decimated the blue collar workforce.

frozenseven 3mo ago
Defunding wasteful programs that steal money from the actual working class is a good thing, actually. But that's neither here nor there, since we're talking about a world with an artificial superintelligence. That's the hypothetical here.