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I agree with the sentiment but is there even any phone that doesn't run Android (or derivatives) or iOS and that can install modern "apps"?
by iLoveOncall 3mo ago
I agree with the sentiment but is there even any phone that doesn't run Android (or derivatives) or iOS and that can install modern "apps"?
- hahahaa 3mo agoRun linux?
- roundabout-host 3mo agoI don't understand. Even if you run GNU/Linux, when you access a restricted website on it, you will have to scan a QR code with the Android or iOS app. <https://cinema.ageverification.dev https://cinema.ageverification.dev> is a demo which shows that.
- iLoveOncall 3mo ago> https://cinema.ageverification.dev https://cinema.ageverification.dev is a demo which shows that. Unrelated to the substance of the comment but this is a depressing example. Imagine having to verify your age and your identity to buy a movie ticket. This is pure insanity. Dark times are ahead. Anyone that doesn't see we'll all be living in dictatorships within the next 10 years is putting their head in the sand.
- _factor 3mo agoThis will ensure there never is.
- sebtron 3mo agoWhy does it have to be a phone? Some people still use tablets, laptops and, believe it or not, desktop PCs.
- xienze 3mo agoSmartphones are much more ubiquitous than any of those devices. Across all demographics.
- marginalia_nu 3mo agoAccessibility doesn't end with catering to most people though. Since this will be a prerequisite to communicate online, that simply isn't good enough.
- xienze 3mo agoYou're under the impression that your concerns matter. What matters is the end game of tying real identity to digital identity.
- marginalia_nu 3mo agoWell my concerns happen to be my constitutional rights.
- iLoveOncall 3mo agoTablets would be compatible, and there's absolutely no indication that there won't be a separate system for computers. It's actually disingenuous to think there won't be. This is a repository for a mobile app only.
- roundabout-host 3mo agoThe spec mandates mobile versions to exist, and not PC ones. While a PC version can be provided, no government will do that, because they will do the bare minimum.
- lexlambda 3mo agoYou must realize, age verification is for more then just Googles Android apps. Such a strong new legal framework must consider consumer hardware actually in use: - Android variations Like GrapheneOS, Huawei's HarmonyOS, older phones running custom ROMs - Linux phones, which are sold in the EU and by EU companies - Desktop operating systems All of them can run Web Apps, and thus need age verification
- pluralmonad 3mo agoWell, none of them _need_ age verification.
- zzril 3mo agoMy PinePhone runs postmarketOS and can technically run every modern Linux desktop "app".
- roundabout-host 3mo agoAndroid derivatives are not considered enough, because they will not be Google-attested, so the app will refuse them.
- mrsssnake 3mo agoEven on the Android or iOS phone the EU app won't run if the device owner made even a tiniest change of the operating system without Google or Apple approval. The EU developed system excludes the 1% of people for which the popular mobile solutions do not work and also make the rest 99% totally dependent on the selected corporations.
- asadotzler 3mo agoWindows and Mac have billions of users.